From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <44CE230C.4050600@village.com> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 11:34:36 -0400 From: Wes Kussmaul User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] group permission References: <91D038E8-828E-451C-A069-265FF382D7D5@ar.aichi-u.ac.jp> <69081255-C87C-41C0-AA0A-3091DA3D8C9C@ar.aichi-u.ac.jp> <44CE1BF3.7070006@comtv.ru> In-Reply-To: <44CE1BF3.7070006@comtv.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Topicbox-Message-UUID: 94eed978-ead1-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 Victor Nazarov wrote: > arisawa@ar.aichi-u.ac.jp wrote: >> Suppose bob is a teacher and he is teaching something to alice and=20 >> carol. >> Alice want to show her files to only bob, and carol also want to show=20 >> her files only to bob. >> How to do that ? > I think alice and carol should create two different groups and add bob=20 > to these groups. IMHO, allowing regular users to create groups is=20 > essensial in multiuser environment. I don't know what's the problem=20 > is, but it's better then ACLs. This is an example of a correct technical solution to a problem that=20 works only in the rare situation where users' main focus of attention is=20 the management of their online resources, e.g. all are software engineers= . For the rest of the world, collaboration facilities must be managed as=20 offices are managed. The ACL is analogous to the list of individuals who=20 have keys to a particular facility. In this situation the teacher needs=20 to own and control the drop slot, a "device" within the office to which=20 he/she controls the ACL and into which users can place files that can=20 only be read by the owner/manager of the room. Relying upon users to=20 create and manage groups for this kind of thing is not realistic. --=20 Wes Kussmaul CIO The Village Group 738 Main Street Waltham, MA 02451 USA 781-647-7178 My uncle likes to say that the world=92s biggest troubles started when th= e serpent said, =93Try this fruit, and by the way if a bunch of people co= llectively calling themselves Arthur Andersen signs something it=92s the = same as if a person named Arthur Andersen signed it.=94 I don=92t get the= serpent and fruit part. Must be some Swiss mythology thing. He can be a = bit obscure.=20 P.K. Iggy _How I Like Fixed The Internet_ (Tales from the Great Infodepression of 2009 and the prosperity that followed)