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From: Lyndon Nerenberg <lyndon@orthanc.ca>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Samterm up down key patch
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:28:47 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <45152E5A-A73D-4297-B0D1-AE169FC14E8E@orthanc.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <34D4933C-7C2E-4B31-A448-D630C8A699E1@orthanc.ca>

On Nov 14, 2006, at 8:43 PM, I wrote:

> Where is the research data that backs the claim that navigating via  
> the mouse is more efficient than navigating via the keyboard?  I  
> know my own experience says this is nonsense.  My physical context  
> switch time between the keyboard and mouse is at least 300 ms; my  
> fingers move quite a bit faster than that on the keyboard.  I know  
> that when I'm in one of the two modes – kbd vs. mouse – I'm very  
> quick in that context.  But as soon as I have to switch between  
> them: yikes!

I need to clarify this.  I'm not trying to claim that mouse and  
keyboard are exclusive.  What I notice are the patterns of behaviour  
of how I use the mouse/kbd vs. what I'm trying to accomplish.

To shoot down the claim in my last message, I find mouse-B3 in the  
compiler diagnostics window combined with a left-hand-on-the-keyboard  
attack to be *very* efficient.  I'm trying to understand why.  It's  
as if there is overlapped context (ala overlapped I/O) going on, it  
works for me.  But as soon as I have to shut down both hands, well,  
to quote Boyd: I'm fucked.

I'll note that I can't play piano (two handed) either, so maybe this  
is just a mental block.

Asking for the research data isn't rhetorical.  Having read the P9  
papers, and having experienced the underlying environment, I'm  
conflicted.  Some of it works (for me), and some doesn't.  I just  
want to know why (and why not).

And I do know where to find emacs, Russ.  But thanks for asking :-)   
(I too no longer know where to find the 3-button Logitech's.  I  
stopped at London Drugs on the way home from work today.  They've  
never let me down before, but today, alas ...)

--lyndon

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-11-15  5:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-11-14  1:02 Joey Makar
2006-11-14 10:49 ` Martin Neubauer
2006-11-14 13:04   ` erik quanstrom
2006-11-14 13:26     ` Martin Neubauer
2006-11-14 13:38       ` erik quanstrom
2006-11-14 18:04         ` David Leimbach
2006-11-14 13:25   ` ron minnich
2006-11-14 13:34     ` erik quanstrom
2006-11-14 13:44       ` ron minnich
2006-11-14 14:04         ` erik quanstrom
2006-11-14 14:16         ` Martin Neubauer
2006-11-14 14:42           ` maht
2006-11-14 16:48             ` Joel Salomon
2006-11-14 17:03               ` maht
2006-11-14 16:48             ` Joey Makar
2006-11-14 20:03             ` John Floren
2006-11-14 21:57               ` Russ Cox
2006-11-14 22:06                 ` David Leimbach
2006-11-15  9:40               ` Matt
2007-01-30  9:55               ` Harri Haataja
2007-01-30 11:34                 ` John Stalker
2006-11-14 18:10         ` David Leimbach
2006-11-14 18:21           ` Sape Mullender
2006-11-14 18:35             ` erik quanstrom
2006-11-14 18:52               ` Bruce Ellis
2006-11-14 19:14                 ` Sape Mullender
2006-11-14 19:18                   ` Paul Lalonde
2006-11-14 19:34                 ` rog
2006-11-14 19:40                   ` csant
2006-11-14 19:52                     ` Bruce Ellis
2006-11-14 18:22           ` Bruce Ellis
2006-11-15  4:43       ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2006-11-15  4:57         ` John Floren
2006-11-15  5:13           ` Russ Cox
2006-11-15  5:32             ` John Floren
2006-11-15  9:27               ` Gorka guardiola
2006-11-15 14:09             ` David Arnold
2006-11-16  2:49             ` erik quanstrom
2006-11-16 13:46               ` plan9
2006-11-16 13:55                 ` Abhey Shah
2006-11-17 16:44                 ` erik quanstrom
2006-11-20  5:48             ` Noah Evans
2007-01-30 11:28             ` Harri Haataja
2007-01-30 11:35               ` Russ Cox
2007-01-30 11:45                 ` Gabriel Diaz
2006-11-15  5:28         ` Lyndon Nerenberg [this message]
2006-11-15 16:26           ` David Leimbach
2006-11-14 14:08     ` Martin Neubauer
2006-11-14 14:20     ` Wes Kussmaul
2006-11-14 15:07       ` Wes Kussmaul
2006-11-14 18:03     ` David Leimbach

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