From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <453A6208.7090108@xmission.com> Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 12:08:08 -0600 From: Lloyd M Caldwell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.7) Gecko/20050420 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu, lmc@xmission.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: [9fans] really basic (stupid) questions, re: beginning sys admin. Topicbox-Message-UUID: cfd21abe-ead1-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 Hello, This is fairly long so tia if you choose to continue reading. I have used, administered and programmed Un*x's for many years, this seems to be more of a hinderance then help. To prove how stupid I am, it took me 3 weeks to figure out how to enter text into sam. If you invoke 'sam file.txt' you see nothing of the file and all the typing in sam's control window results in nothing. Maybe if sam had used the same "new window" icon as rio, I might have figured out more quickly that you must make a new window inside an existing window to actually see the text file contents. This, despite having read of the recursive rio capability and seeing the figures in Rob Pike's paper on sam. Acme is too much of a commitment, besides the initial glenda login acme window message says there are two columns and my systems glenda,acme window has three columns. My system is installed from cdrom, release 4, march 23rd, fossil+venti. Q1) how to "logout" of the fossil+venti console? In my experience, open console access to servers is bad (insecure). Even though it is stated numerous places that there is no "root" account. Apparently physical access to the console IS "root"? Q2) It is stated that you can't run both an authentication server and a file server on the same node so how do I get the 'factotum' stuff going on a standalone file-server/terminal/cpu-server (the cdrom installed system)? Q3) I have made a new user, how would I set this new user's (and glenda's) password? Again on the standalone cdrom installed system. Q4) on Un*x, after entering a man page command I can search for a specific word with /word in a terminal emulator window. How do I perform the same thing in a rio/rc window (please don't answer "use acme")? Q5) rebooting seems to be the main method to re-configure the system or ones access rights. In Un*x logging in/out and using su and kill/restart allowed one to choose the role and modify the system configuration without rebooting (I have a system running with uptime over 3 years). Is rebooting the method for performing these tasks? This seems rather draconian (imo). Any help is greatly appreciated. tia regards Lloyd M Caldwell lmc@xmission.com ps: i have an ac97 audio driver written and working on a via-epia motherboard? anyone interested in trying this?