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Ufff, is very very interesing. Thanks for the "mouse history"

slds.

Brantley Coile wrote:
>> My $0.02.
>>    =20
>
> Great that the newbie that asked the original questin has now used
> and seen the advantage of Rio and the plan 9 interface.
>
> The comment about some so-called Unix community folks not wanting to
> touch the mouse is certainly true, and I've been amazed at that.  To
> show them that using the mouse is not anti-Unix, some history might be
> in order.
>
> Certainly the first use of the mouse on any system was Doug
> Engelbart's use at SRI in 1970.  The mouse quickly scurried accross El
> Camino Real to Xerox PARC and was used in the Alto in 1973.  The Unix
> folks at Bell Labs got a mouse in 1982 with the development of the
> Blit terminal developed by Rob Pike and Bart Locanthi.  That design
> brought windows (or layers as they were called) and the mouse into a
> Unix system cleanly.  The Blit turned into the DMD5620 and then the
> 630 and 730.  The Blit and its programs were key to the research that
> led to plan 9's interfaces.  The gnot, a descendent of these
> terminals, was designed in 1989 to run plan 9 on the desk.  It was the
> original thin client.
>
> The windowing systems at Bell Labs went from mpx to mux to 8=C2=BD to r=
io,
> with several systems in between, all from the originators of Unix at
> the place of origin of Unix.  So, it seems to me that Rio has a claim
> to being a true Unix interface.  More so than xterm and vi.  I
> sometimes like to use ed(1) for nostalgic reasons, but I get things
> done faster in acme(1).  I don't think xterm and emacs are Unix at
> all.
>
> I never did understand why xterm clears the screen when I `q' out of
> man.  Maybe so I can develop a photographic memory and remember what
> was on the man page that I now have to type at the prompt.
>
>
>  =20