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That's one of the reasons I built the open system eu.9p.zone. the idea=20 was that we can build many (fileserver) systems around the world (hence=20 the "eu" in the domain) with cpu servers people can join and learn how it=20 is to be on a shared 9 system. > PS: We're too deep in the Global South to afford fancy equipment, even > used laptops are too expensive to ship to South Africa - never mind > the cost of laptop batteries. Maybe we can recycle the odd rPi, but > there the cost and transportation problem shifts to the display. > > I am willing to listen to suggestions. Eu.9p.zone currently runs on a VPS network and consists of 2 machines=20 (one fs+cpu and one cpu-only). The auth server is one public auth server=20 at 9p.zone (with some self-signup scripts I still need to improve). The purpose of the auth server is that devs and community can provide=20 many EXTRA services as they like and users in that authdom can just use=20 them (provided they get access via permissions). In my case, after=20 account creation at the 9p.zone auth users need to request access to the=20 fs.eu.9p.zone (again, via script). It's probably quite similar to the bootcamp, but it's more about general=20 use and working on projects together than just learning, so it's also=20 good for long term projects. However, I don't know if people work on=20 projects there. sirjofri ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Te178b97d94173ff8-M11356= 9373538c589ff1b6fc2 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription