From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <463D7604.1060608@conducive.org> Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 14:30:28 +0800 From: W B Hacker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2) Gecko/20070221 SeaMonkey/1.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] speaking of kenc References: <463D6328.3050909@conducive.org> <4c83173a84a81a849e4be0cd323cc81f@proxima.alt.za> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Topicbox-Message-UUID: 5b61a298-ead2-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 Rogelio Serrano wrote: *snip* > > some people actually wanted to write gcc in c++. God forbid. i dont > want to be writing system routines with STL. the gcc steering > committee have a majority of c++ programmers and ^even^ > they resisted it. And well they should! C++ is a towering example of what happens when good theoretical intentions with too little inertia meet conflicting needs. Java is another. We don't need cures that are worse than the disease. If it even *is* a 'disease'. By contrast, though I don't expect Ada will ever get much faster, let alone 'best choice' for all work, it is at least finally delivering enough reduction in debugging time to make economic sense to firms with serious needs and serious funding. Boeing, for example. We need to learn *something* useful from that. And apply it. Bill