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Cc: David Tolpin <dvd@davidashen.net>
From: suspect@suspicious.org
Subject: Re: [9fans] insularity
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 11:36:44 -0500
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i stared at the last few messages to David with my mouth
open. Those were not very kind words to be spoken to
someone who has shown interest, willingness to actually
contribute and most importantly, humility.  Repeated humility.

I'm just an observer on this list, but feel obligated to speak up.
I'm also a dot/neato user. Thanks for the work. Thanks again.

cheers,


On Mar 17, 2004, at 11:22 AM, rog@vitanuova.com wrote:

>> So I'm now deleting your messages on contact.
>
> oh for f***'s sake!
>
> ok, so david tolpin has been a bit verbose, (and we're naturally
> suspicious that his deep involvement with XML implies a fundamental
> lack of taste) but when it comes down to it, he's has actually dived
> in there and done stuff.
>
> most newcomers to plan 9 don't get further than booting the damn
> thing.
>
> i think people that have been involved in this stuff for a long time
> forget the distance between plan 9 and other systems.  yes, most stuff
> is documented (often by implication), but having someone to talk to
> that knows about the system makes all the difference.  i think all
> david's questions have been perfectly acceptable, and i wouldn't have
> thought twice about answering them had they been asked by someone
> across the room.
>
> this system *needs* people with some energy to spare, otherwise it'll
> continue to decline the way it has been since the great scattering from
> bell labs.  if this is the way we treat someone who appears to have
> some energy and inclination, then i've no hope at all.  i'm ashamed to
> be part of this group.
>
>> If you can't get over this initial conceptual hump,
>> then fuck off back to CrapOS and leave us alone.
>
> *cringe*
>