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From: kvik@a-b.xyz In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_OUT X-Migadu-Auth-User: kvik@a-b.xyz Topicbox-Policy-Reasoning: allow: sender is a member Topicbox-Message-UUID: 10fa735c-00dc-11ec-be35-ff7e4cc2f430 Archived-At: =?UTF-8?B?PGh0dHBzOi8vOWZhbnMudG9waWNib3guY29tL2dyb3Vwcy85?= =?UTF-8?B?ZmFucy9UOWVmNjQzMGYzMDI1ZTczMS1NYzRlOTRiMjZhYmM1M2FkYTg3YWRk?= =?UTF-8?B?Yjg3Pg==?= List-Help: List-Id: "9fans" <9fans.9fans.net> List-Post: List-Software: Topicbox v0 List-Subscribe: Precedence: list Reply-To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> List-Unsubscribe: , Topicbox-Delivery-ID: 2:9fans:437d30aa-c441-11e9-8a57-d036212d11b0:522be890-2105-11eb-b15e-8d699134e1fa:Mc4e94b26abc53ada87addb87:1:v4A3nvafow2A5ZMvUyaabomLWy6GBkxhcpCHsWcNigo Quoth Lucio De Re : > What seems to be harped upon by the vocal defenders of 9front, > however, is this fictional idea that there is another community, let's > call them "9legacy", that is attempting to subvert 9front's efforts to > gain some kind of recognition in the bigger picture. The core 9front contributors and most everyone else who commented on this situation in 9front's super secret inner circles simply find it socially awkward that 9front isn't mentioned. Some may read more of the signal. Otherwise 9front folks couldn't care less about being recognized by a website. Nothing would change or improve if that happened. The only ones who objectively suffer in the current situation is newcomers who aren't properly informed by a website on the options they have if they want to run a "Plan 9". I personally don't see an issue with 9front and 9legacy continuing to be their own things. Different people have different ideas for what they want to make out of their Plan 9 and sometimes their ideas are simply incompatible. I'd like to see people communicate and exchange ideas and/or code more effectively but this will always remain in the hands of individuals who decide how to socialise and what to work on. ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T9ef6430f3025e731-Mc4e94= b26abc53ada87addb87 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription