From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <47ac164ad553d8dd4771944f819e58ac@terzarima.net> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] vga hell From: Charles Forsyth Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 09:00:54 +0100 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Topicbox-Message-UUID: da273200-eacd-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 >>/lib/vgadb converted to xml via perl, say it would need to be a perl implementation of xslt to meet w3c stundards (a `stundard' is a self-declared standard that makes you feel stunned esp. if it hits you), but i digress: i think it's wrong to include lisp in that `hellish' set, with vga, perl and xml, at least in the sense of the underlying lisp `core'. i admit the Common Lisp book has the disadvantage that at 50 pounds the price is also the weight, but that's the usual standards hell, not restricted to lisp. if the spiders had used s-expressions for structured data, and lisp for portable transformation, any resulting standards mess might have been easier to circumnavigate, or perhaps avoid. w3c also wouldn't have ended up in an xml-binary tangle (because there's a standard transport encoding for s-expressions that encompasses binary as ... binary; such magic!)