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Subject: Re: [9fans] ports from GPL
From: Brantley Coile <brantley@coraid.com>
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 18:13:45 -0500
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> I'm not trying to say sockets were 'right' -But that in context, if you
> came from a tops-10 world, or a VMS world (mailbox I/O..) that they
> were certainly no more awful than things you'd had to do, and compared
> to eg /dev/tty (which WAS the network for many people) were
> considerably better.

Someone once commented that the socket interface was a lot like the
tops-10 interfaces for things.  A collection of such techniques and
methods is what I'm calling a culture.  People from the tops-10
influenced VMS who influenced WindowsNT (or implemented it).  Tops-10
started at BBN.  TCP was, as Dr. Ritchie points out, started at BBN
and was filtered into BSD.  The CTSS and Multics influenced the
culture of of Unix.

>
> Stallmans gnu manifesto emerged at around the same time. I remember
> getting both the AT&T getopt and this manifesto off UUCP news at leeds
> at broadly contemporay times.

Somewhere I should still have my getopt card from the 1981 (I think) Usenix.


Which culture produced the 10,000 line manual page for the C compiler?
The whole V6 C Reference Manual was only 2,500 lines.