From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <488D35A2.5080806@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 20:57:38 -0600 From: don bailey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> References: <9a26ecb5639631b7d346a52c0c8e849d@quanstro.net> In-Reply-To: <9a26ecb5639631b7d346a52c0c8e849d@quanstro.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [9fans] dns exploits (self-promotion remix) Topicbox-Message-UUID: f2cd8cc2-ead3-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 > i don't understand this > 1. plan 9 never used a static source port for queries, > and more importantly > Erm, sequential source ports are close enough. > 2. who does recursive queries on external interfaces? > i would have considerd this a configuration error and > security problem ten years ago. > Tell that to the rest of the internet. It's not that simple, either. I am using recursive capability as an example of making an attack extremely easy. I could also send you an e-mail with HTML that loads images from a specific domain name. There are a million other vectors that are just as predictable because of the luxury of web2.0. Recursive queries obviously just make this simpler for the attacker. D