From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <4AB255FA.3040902@0x6a.com> Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 10:30:02 -0500 From: Jack Norton User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [9fans] fun quote Topicbox-Message-UUID: 70b45d5e-ead5-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 erik quanstrom wrote: >> Now, Plan 9's kernel is pretty old too, isn't it? >> > > that's the point. age is a red herring. > > >> What has saved other 'popular' kernels from this? For instance, no body >> ever complains about FreeBSD being a complex cluster, but it has >> pretty wide adoption (even as a 'desktop'). What about OS X? Has >> Apple's arrogance and secrecy saved it from.... open source >> development? It seems like they release code only after they are damn >> sure they've gotten all they can out of it. >> > > so you're saying that osx is not complicated? > > - erik > > No, no, it is, what I mean is that I haven't heard similar sentiments towards the open source released by Apple. Apple's 'open source' is software that is developed in a closed source fashion, then released as open source when the time is right, as opposed to Linux and related software, which are developed, almost from the ground up, as open source. This is the impression I get anyway. -Jack