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From: Wes Kussmaul <wes@authentrus.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] go to this site
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:07:10 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AE736CE.1020609@authentrus.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cbee5f45cfdaeceab760bbaa9a0a403c@ladd.quanstro.net>

erik quanstrom wrote:
>> Equally true story. We used to run our own servers. A (name withheld)
>> sysadmin always felt he knew better than management how servers should
>> be configured and managed even when in fact he did not. So we went to
>> Rackspace, where we are treated as customers and where sysadmins manage
>> the resource as directed. And they're available 24/7/365.
>
> this doesn't fix the underlying management problems
> that allowed the original situation to develop.

Yes, there was a management error in either a) bad sysadmin hiring
methods; b) not being clear enough about expectations; or c) both. But
the solution to the problem has worked well.

There is a lot of residual "management doesn't understand networks and
databases and operating systems so we will make decisions for them"
attitude out there, even where the reality of management's background
has changed. While it's true that "cloud computing" is a nonsense
phrase, there are reasons why server outsourcing gains traction.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-10-27 18:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <<4AE70F74.7000505@authentrus.com>
2009-10-27 15:23 ` erik quanstrom
2009-10-27 15:50   ` ron minnich
2009-10-27 17:32     ` Wes Kussmaul
2009-10-27 18:07   ` Wes Kussmaul [this message]
2009-10-27 18:59     ` erik quanstrom
2009-10-27 19:57       ` Wes Kussmaul
2009-10-27 20:11         ` erik quanstrom
2009-10-27 20:33           ` Wes Kussmaul
2009-10-27 20:36           ` Wes Kussmaul
     [not found] <<3e1162e60910270826m281a7a9awba6ea117b7351605@mail.gmail.com>
2009-10-27 15:33 ` erik quanstrom
2009-10-27 15:39   ` David Leimbach
2009-10-27  0:00 ron minnich
2009-10-26 20:33 ` Jacob Todd
2009-10-27  0:38 ` Joseph Stewart
2009-10-27  0:47   ` Jeff Sickel
2009-10-27  0:41 ` dave.l
2009-10-27  0:50 ` Geoffrey Avila
2009-10-27  1:52 ` Latchesar Ionkov
2009-10-27  2:39   ` ron minnich
2009-10-27 13:03     ` Eris Discordia
2009-10-27  3:21   ` andrey mirtchovski
2009-10-27  3:47     ` ron minnich
2009-10-27  3:49       ` ron minnich
2009-10-27 15:19         ` Wes Kussmaul
2009-10-27 15:26           ` David Leimbach
2009-10-27 18:42         ` Sam Watkins
2009-10-27  4:06       ` W B Hacker
2009-10-27  5:42 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2009-10-27  8:00 ` tlaronde
2009-10-27  8:12   ` lucio

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