Re: [9fans] go to this site

[Wes Kussmaul <wes@authentrus.com>]

erik quanstrom wrote:
>>>> There is a lot of residual "management doesn't understand networks and
>>>> databases and operating systems so we will make decisions for them"
>>>> attitude out there, even where the reality of management's background
>>>> has changed. While it's true that "cloud computing" is a nonsense
>>>> phrase, there are reasons why server outsourcing gains traction.
>>> if management really does understand things as well as
>>> the it guys, then the it guys were unnecessary to begin with.
>> Let's parse that.
> [...]
>>> i would hope that anyone hiring someone in such a
>>> position would be interested in their input!
>> C'mon, that's a "when did you stop beating your wife" comment. Of course
>
> why doesn't your argument work if you switch from a
> mangement to a technical perspective?  i was just
> turning your argument around.  why would you not
> want to listen to IT, unless they are getting in the way
> and not doing their job?  that's an argument
> that runs both ways.
>
> my assumption is that if management is doing its job, then the
> problem of IT guy making policy decisions, if it happens, will
> be a resolvable problem.
>
> the argument i see you makeing is in essence that fixing management
> is impracticable.  i may be cynical, but i don't subscribe to that world view.

Well, I don't think I even hinted at anything of the sort, but I'm happy
to let others, who will be happy to see the thread die, judge.

Wes