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From: W B Hacker <wbh@conducive.org>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Scanners
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 12:55:05 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B0E0A29.5050106@conducive.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5af7fa2321717c5b65c51f6405dc89bb@terzarima.net>

Charles Forsyth wrote:
>> If Plan9 can 'plumb' a remote sound card, (a questionable example long
>> publicized) I'm sure it can do so with a mouse.
>
> it isn't plumbing, but export/import, and it's useful.
> i had a usable sound system on my r3000 indigo, but my PC had none.
> on the pc, i imported the indigo's /dev and played sounds that way.
> i could imagine uses even a continent away (alarm system imports remote
> /dev and announces trouble). next door might be more useful.
>
>

Welll - in the same room, it would seem 'sneakernet' would do well enough. Point
of fact, I use three kdb,vid,mouse and ... a swivel chair... less confusing than
sharing/switching among three disparate OS'en.

;-)

And I've actually considered remote audio I/O as part of a system for monitoring
a house that sits empty for months at a time, and responding to the doorbell ..
intrusion, et al ... but.. 'edge cases', both, if ever were. Easy enough to do
without Plan9. 'Too easy' to be fair.

'export/import' applied to remote resources - especially 'scarce' or expensive
ones (sound cards no longer are..) that could *send back* the results might make
a better present-day example.

If we could identify a few...

Couple of thoughts:

- hardware crypto devices  (cheap and cheerful in recent VIA CPU, seldom seen
otherwise)

- fast, specialty (expensive) graphics processing engines for storage to file,
or streaming-back not (necessarily) remote display. Ray tracing comes to mind...

- a 'ration' - free or purchased - of grid or supercomputing resources? (several
experts here - I'm not among them)

In any case, given that audio codecs are near-as-dammit ubiquitous on commodity,
and even 'server grade' and 'embedded' system boards these many years, I think a
better example than sharing a Soundblaster-equivalent is overdue.

I'm well aware that 'marketing' Plan9 is not really on anyone's radar here ..
but there could be a bit more done to convey the availability and value to the
like-minded potential fellow-travelers [1]. One benefit might include more
current device driver import/devel..

JM2CW

Bill

[1] FWIW - the 'Blue Gene' Plan9 work deserves better publicity. If/as/when one
hears that a certain 'hobby' alleged-OS is being run on such expensive kit, one
tends to question why it was even built...




  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-26  4:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <<3aaafc130911242005m5cfc0d8bs92094b33757711d9@mail.gmail.com>
2009-11-25  4:08 ` erik quanstrom
2009-11-25  9:45   ` Peter A. Cejchan
2009-11-25 11:32   ` Andreas Zell
2009-11-25 12:20     ` Peter A. Cejchan
2009-11-25 12:26       ` Peter A. Cejchan
2009-11-25 14:34         ` hiro
2009-11-25 14:28       ` Andreas Zell
2009-11-25 14:33         ` Jorden Mauro
2009-11-25 14:44           ` hiro
2009-11-25 16:45             ` Peter A. Cejchan
2009-11-25 16:43         ` Peter A. Cejchan
2009-11-25 17:03           ` Jack Norton
2009-11-26  0:51           ` cinap_lenrek
2009-11-25 16:53         ` ron minnich
2009-11-25 17:04           ` Brian L. Stuart
2009-11-25 17:08             ` John Floren
2009-11-25 19:04               ` Brian L. Stuart
2009-12-01 19:52               ` Steve Simon
2009-11-25 17:12             ` hiro
2009-11-25 17:20           ` erik quanstrom
2009-11-25 17:47             ` Anthony Sorace
2009-11-25 17:51               ` erik quanstrom
2009-11-26  3:48                 ` Anthony Sorace
2009-11-26  5:16                   ` W B Hacker
2009-11-25 19:18               ` ron minnich
2009-11-25 19:49               ` W B Hacker
2009-11-26  0:07                 ` Charles Forsyth
2009-11-26  4:55                   ` W B Hacker [this message]
2009-11-26  6:39                     ` [9fans] remote access to audio devices Sam Watkins
2009-11-26  8:59                       ` W B Hacker
2009-12-01 20:44                         ` Steve Simon
2009-12-01 22:28                           ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2009-12-02  0:26                             ` Patrick Kelly
2009-12-02  3:00                               ` Sam Watkins
2009-12-25  9:50                                 ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2009-11-26 13:03                   ` [9fans] Scanners Ethan Grammatikidis
2009-11-26 20:23                   ` [9fans] 9p resource sharing [was: Scanners] Tim Newsham
2009-11-26 20:33                     ` Tim Newsham
2009-11-26 23:39                     ` Enrico Weigelt
2009-11-27  4:36                       ` Tim Newsham
2009-11-27  5:30                         ` Enrico Weigelt
2009-11-26 22:59               ` [9fans] Scanners Enrico Weigelt
2009-11-25 14:17   ` Jorden Mauro
     [not found] <<4B0E42E2.80906@conducive.org>
2009-11-26 13:20 ` erik quanstrom
2009-11-26 14:35   ` W B Hacker
2009-11-26 14:45     ` erik quanstrom
2009-11-26 14:50   ` Anthony Sorace
2009-11-26 15:11     ` W B Hacker
     [not found] <<20091126064335.GC8156@nipl.net>
2009-11-26 13:06 ` erik quanstrom
2009-11-26 18:30   ` ron minnich
2009-11-26 20:08     ` matt
2009-11-26 23:22       ` matt
     [not found] <<4B0E14CF.3010406@conducive.org>
2009-11-26  5:51 ` erik quanstrom
2009-11-26  6:43   ` Sam Watkins
2009-11-26  6:51     ` Sam Watkins
2009-11-26  6:54       ` Sam Watkins
2009-11-26  9:25       ` Charles Forsyth
2009-11-26 13:01         ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2009-11-26 18:08           ` lucio
2009-11-26 23:41     ` Enrico Weigelt
2009-11-26  8:57   ` W B Hacker
     [not found] <<4B0E0A29.5050106@conducive.org>
2009-11-26  5:06 ` erik quanstrom
2009-11-26  5:40   ` W B Hacker
2009-11-26  9:36     ` Charles Forsyth
2009-11-25  4:05 Jorden Mauro
2009-11-26 23:10 ` Enrico Weigelt

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