From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <4B0E0A29.5050106@conducive.org> Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 12:55:05 +0800 From: W B Hacker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090823 SeaMonkey/1.1.18 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> References: <5af7fa2321717c5b65c51f6405dc89bb@terzarima.net> In-Reply-To: <5af7fa2321717c5b65c51f6405dc89bb@terzarima.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [9fans] Scanners Topicbox-Message-UUID: a0f03a10-ead5-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 Charles Forsyth wrote: >> If Plan9 can 'plumb' a remote sound card, (a questionable example long >> publicized) I'm sure it can do so with a mouse. > > it isn't plumbing, but export/import, and it's useful. > i had a usable sound system on my r3000 indigo, but my PC had none. > on the pc, i imported the indigo's /dev and played sounds that way. > i could imagine uses even a continent away (alarm system imports remote > /dev and announces trouble). next door might be more useful. > > Welll - in the same room, it would seem 'sneakernet' would do well enough. Point of fact, I use three kdb,vid,mouse and ... a swivel chair... less confusing than sharing/switching among three disparate OS'en. ;-) And I've actually considered remote audio I/O as part of a system for monitoring a house that sits empty for months at a time, and responding to the doorbell .. intrusion, et al ... but.. 'edge cases', both, if ever were. Easy enough to do without Plan9. 'Too easy' to be fair. 'export/import' applied to remote resources - especially 'scarce' or expensive ones (sound cards no longer are..) that could *send back* the results might make a better present-day example. If we could identify a few... Couple of thoughts: - hardware crypto devices (cheap and cheerful in recent VIA CPU, seldom seen otherwise) - fast, specialty (expensive) graphics processing engines for storage to file, or streaming-back not (necessarily) remote display. Ray tracing comes to mind... - a 'ration' - free or purchased - of grid or supercomputing resources? (several experts here - I'm not among them) In any case, given that audio codecs are near-as-dammit ubiquitous on commodity, and even 'server grade' and 'embedded' system boards these many years, I think a better example than sharing a Soundblaster-equivalent is overdue. I'm well aware that 'marketing' Plan9 is not really on anyone's radar here .. but there could be a bit more done to convey the availability and value to the like-minded potential fellow-travelers [1]. One benefit might include more current device driver import/devel.. JM2CW Bill [1] FWIW - the 'Blue Gene' Plan9 work deserves better publicity. If/as/when one hears that a certain 'hobby' alleged-OS is being run on such expensive kit, one tends to question why it was even built...