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From: W B Hacker <wbh@conducive.org>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Scanners
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 13:40:31 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B0E14CF.3010406@conducive.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <40cda7cd696b5db56dc50b9127f88f61@ladd.quanstro.net>

erik quanstrom wrote:
>> 'export/import' applied to remote resources - especially 'scarce' or expensive
>> ones (sound cards no longer are..) that could *send back* the results might make
>> a better present-day example.
>
> the resource i want is generally particuarly scarce;
> there is often just one device that will do.
>
> i often import the aoe device of a machine on a
> storage network, for example.  i think thinking
> that all doo-dads with capability x are equivalent
> is a mistake, or a misunderstanding of "capability".

There you go.  A better example, IMNSHO, than SB16-equiv.

And there just *have to be*  another dozen 'modern' examples lying about.. taken
for granted by 9fans perhaps - but there's the rub...

Hiding a whole light-show under a bushel, if you will.

...meanwhile, other newcomers are involved in reinventing the networking,
clustering, 'sharing' capability - and not necessarily all that well - that
Plan9 started life with...

>
>> I'm well aware that 'marketing' Plan9 is not really on anyone's radar here ..
>> but there could be a bit more done to convey the availability and value to the
>> like-minded potential fellow-travelers [1]. One benefit might include more
>> current device driver import/devel..
>
> funny you should mention that.
>
> - erik
>
>

Sad to say, all the drivers I have ever written were in octal, ASM, or LMI Forth
(with ncc), so I'm not in any way 'current' myself.

But it IS a bit frustrating to see drivers available in one F/OSS OS (or
variant) and not another, more especially as they are nearly always written in
reasonably portable 'C' code these many years.

Reality is that the rate of introduction/change of hardware/silicon is too fast
for any small - or even 'medium sized' team (FreeBSD for example) to keep up
with on their own... and that gap is widening.

Bill



  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-26  5:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <<4B0E0A29.5050106@conducive.org>
2009-11-26  5:06 ` erik quanstrom
2009-11-26  5:40   ` W B Hacker [this message]
2009-11-26  9:36     ` Charles Forsyth
     [not found] <<4B0E42E2.80906@conducive.org>
2009-11-26 13:20 ` erik quanstrom
2009-11-26 14:35   ` W B Hacker
2009-11-26 14:45     ` erik quanstrom
2009-11-26 14:50   ` Anthony Sorace
2009-11-26 15:11     ` W B Hacker
     [not found] <<20091126064335.GC8156@nipl.net>
2009-11-26 13:06 ` erik quanstrom
2009-11-26 18:30   ` ron minnich
2009-11-26 20:08     ` matt
2009-11-26 23:22       ` matt
     [not found] <<4B0E14CF.3010406@conducive.org>
2009-11-26  5:51 ` erik quanstrom
2009-11-26  6:43   ` Sam Watkins
2009-11-26  6:51     ` Sam Watkins
2009-11-26  6:54       ` Sam Watkins
2009-11-26  9:25       ` Charles Forsyth
2009-11-26 13:01         ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2009-11-26 18:08           ` lucio
2009-11-26 23:41     ` Enrico Weigelt
2009-11-26  8:57   ` W B Hacker
     [not found] <<3aaafc130911242005m5cfc0d8bs92094b33757711d9@mail.gmail.com>
2009-11-25  4:08 ` erik quanstrom
2009-11-25  9:45   ` Peter A. Cejchan
2009-11-25 11:32   ` Andreas Zell
2009-11-25 12:20     ` Peter A. Cejchan
2009-11-25 12:26       ` Peter A. Cejchan
2009-11-25 14:34         ` hiro
2009-11-25 14:28       ` Andreas Zell
2009-11-25 14:33         ` Jorden Mauro
2009-11-25 14:44           ` hiro
2009-11-25 16:45             ` Peter A. Cejchan
2009-11-25 16:43         ` Peter A. Cejchan
2009-11-25 17:03           ` Jack Norton
2009-11-26  0:51           ` cinap_lenrek
2009-11-25 16:53         ` ron minnich
2009-11-25 17:04           ` Brian L. Stuart
2009-11-25 17:08             ` John Floren
2009-11-25 19:04               ` Brian L. Stuart
2009-12-01 19:52               ` Steve Simon
2009-11-25 17:12             ` hiro
2009-11-25 17:20           ` erik quanstrom
2009-11-25 17:47             ` Anthony Sorace
2009-11-25 17:51               ` erik quanstrom
2009-11-26  3:48                 ` Anthony Sorace
2009-11-26  5:16                   ` W B Hacker
2009-11-25 19:18               ` ron minnich
2009-11-25 19:49               ` W B Hacker
2009-11-26  0:07                 ` Charles Forsyth
2009-11-26  4:55                   ` W B Hacker
2009-11-26 13:03                   ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2009-11-26 22:59               ` Enrico Weigelt
2009-11-25 14:17   ` Jorden Mauro
2009-11-25  4:05 Jorden Mauro
2009-11-26 23:10 ` Enrico Weigelt

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