From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <4B0E14CF.3010406@conducive.org> Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 13:40:31 +0800 From: W B Hacker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090823 SeaMonkey/1.1.18 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> References: <<4B0E0A29.5050106@conducive.org>> <40cda7cd696b5db56dc50b9127f88f61@ladd.quanstro.net> In-Reply-To: <40cda7cd696b5db56dc50b9127f88f61@ladd.quanstro.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [9fans] Scanners Topicbox-Message-UUID: a0fcc168-ead5-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 erik quanstrom wrote: >> 'export/import' applied to remote resources - especially 'scarce' or expensive >> ones (sound cards no longer are..) that could *send back* the results might make >> a better present-day example. > > the resource i want is generally particuarly scarce; > there is often just one device that will do. > > i often import the aoe device of a machine on a > storage network, for example. i think thinking > that all doo-dads with capability x are equivalent > is a mistake, or a misunderstanding of "capability". There you go. A better example, IMNSHO, than SB16-equiv. And there just *have to be* another dozen 'modern' examples lying about.. taken for granted by 9fans perhaps - but there's the rub... Hiding a whole light-show under a bushel, if you will. ...meanwhile, other newcomers are involved in reinventing the networking, clustering, 'sharing' capability - and not necessarily all that well - that Plan9 started life with... > >> I'm well aware that 'marketing' Plan9 is not really on anyone's radar here .. >> but there could be a bit more done to convey the availability and value to the >> like-minded potential fellow-travelers [1]. One benefit might include more >> current device driver import/devel.. > > funny you should mention that. > > - erik > > Sad to say, all the drivers I have ever written were in octal, ASM, or LMI Forth (with ncc), so I'm not in any way 'current' myself. But it IS a bit frustrating to see drivers available in one F/OSS OS (or variant) and not another, more especially as they are nearly always written in reasonably portable 'C' code these many years. Reality is that the rate of introduction/change of hardware/silicon is too fast for any small - or even 'medium sized' team (FreeBSD for example) to keep up with on their own... and that gap is widening. Bill