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From: W B Hacker <wbh@conducive.org>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Scanners
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 16:57:06 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B0E42E2.80906@conducive.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2c61ec3892b531cee032fc8199128720@ladd.quanstro.net>

erik quanstrom wrote:
>> But it IS a bit frustrating to see drivers available in one F/OSS OS (or
>> variant) and not another, more especially as they are nearly always written in
>> reasonably portable 'C' code these many years.
>
> that's easier said than done.  Blocks are not the same as sk_bufs.
> for that matter, they're not the same as MsgBufs or RingBufs.

Aware.

But take note of Haiku's move to make their OS capable of using *BSD drivers.

That sort of adapter layer seems worthwhile, even if the results do not
initially approach 'native' performance.

*After* the dust settles (who woulda thunk, on apparent 'merit' or lack thereof,
that the dodgy Realtek silicon would ever have become soooo ubiquitous?)

..THEN 'native' drivers could be gone after for the much smaller subset of
'common survivors'. IOW, better a slow, or feature-stripped driver than none at
all.

>
>> Reality is that the rate of introduction/change of hardware/silicon is too fast
>> for any small - or even 'medium sized' team (FreeBSD for example) to keep up
>> with on their own... and that gap is widening.
>
> that's only a problem if one's goal is to support all possible
> hardware.
>
> - erik
>
>

Not a goal I'd seek - nor even lcose to it.

It is not really a problem if, for example, one says there is only a VESA 2 (or
later) driver for video - so long as it is a good one, as Plan9 is not really a
GUI-centric OS in the first place. More akin to ncurses with a precocious mouse.

;-)

Bill






  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-11-26  8:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <<4B0E14CF.3010406@conducive.org>
2009-11-26  5:51 ` erik quanstrom
2009-11-26  6:43   ` Sam Watkins
2009-11-26  6:51     ` Sam Watkins
2009-11-26  6:54       ` Sam Watkins
2009-11-26  9:25       ` Charles Forsyth
2009-11-26 13:01         ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2009-11-26 18:08           ` lucio
2009-11-26 23:41     ` Enrico Weigelt
2009-11-26  8:57   ` W B Hacker [this message]
     [not found] <<4B0E42E2.80906@conducive.org>
2009-11-26 13:20 ` erik quanstrom
2009-11-26 14:35   ` W B Hacker
2009-11-26 14:45     ` erik quanstrom
2009-11-26 14:50   ` Anthony Sorace
2009-11-26 15:11     ` W B Hacker
     [not found] <<20091126064335.GC8156@nipl.net>
2009-11-26 13:06 ` erik quanstrom
2009-11-26 18:30   ` ron minnich
2009-11-26 20:08     ` matt
2009-11-26 23:22       ` matt
     [not found] <<4B0E0A29.5050106@conducive.org>
2009-11-26  5:06 ` erik quanstrom
2009-11-26  5:40   ` W B Hacker
2009-11-26  9:36     ` Charles Forsyth
     [not found] <<3aaafc130911242005m5cfc0d8bs92094b33757711d9@mail.gmail.com>
2009-11-25  4:08 ` erik quanstrom
2009-11-25  9:45   ` Peter A. Cejchan
2009-11-25 11:32   ` Andreas Zell
2009-11-25 12:20     ` Peter A. Cejchan
2009-11-25 12:26       ` Peter A. Cejchan
2009-11-25 14:34         ` hiro
2009-11-25 14:28       ` Andreas Zell
2009-11-25 14:33         ` Jorden Mauro
2009-11-25 14:44           ` hiro
2009-11-25 16:45             ` Peter A. Cejchan
2009-11-25 16:43         ` Peter A. Cejchan
2009-11-25 17:03           ` Jack Norton
2009-11-26  0:51           ` cinap_lenrek
2009-11-25 16:53         ` ron minnich
2009-11-25 17:04           ` Brian L. Stuart
2009-11-25 17:08             ` John Floren
2009-11-25 19:04               ` Brian L. Stuart
2009-12-01 19:52               ` Steve Simon
2009-11-25 17:12             ` hiro
2009-11-25 17:20           ` erik quanstrom
2009-11-25 17:47             ` Anthony Sorace
2009-11-25 17:51               ` erik quanstrom
2009-11-26  3:48                 ` Anthony Sorace
2009-11-26  5:16                   ` W B Hacker
2009-11-25 19:18               ` ron minnich
2009-11-25 19:49               ` W B Hacker
2009-11-26  0:07                 ` Charles Forsyth
2009-11-26  4:55                   ` W B Hacker
2009-11-26 13:03                   ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2009-11-26 22:59               ` Enrico Weigelt
2009-11-25 14:17   ` Jorden Mauro
2009-11-25  4:05 Jorden Mauro
2009-11-26 23:10 ` Enrico Weigelt

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