From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <4BB0FF85.90008@magma.com.ni> Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 21:29:09 +0200 From: Georg Lehner User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100317) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> References: <20100325114948.GA7249@polynum.com> <31C84C15-2EE3-46CA-BE9F-48F20886ADF7@fastmail.fm> <202b36ec0f14adf4b09e53052147ccc8@brasstown.quanstro.net> <11721B64-8041-4D96-94E3-49472F941C38@fastmail.fm> <32d987d51003281236m7a890b0dkaf4de23191fa3d47@mail.gmail.com> <8AB033EC-13D4-4BD3-A70F-B9CE7D724238@fastmail.fm> <2653D5E1-ADDE-4351-8DE1-896D490DED68@fastmail.fm> <000b01cacf1f$3d25e570$b771b050$@com> <1E47E1C7-F15B-4295-9B7F-F1CFA96508AB@fastmail.fm> <000c01cacf39$729037a0$57b0a6e0$@com> In-Reply-To: <000c01cacf39$729037a0$57b0a6e0$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [9fans] Man pages for add-ons Topicbox-Message-UUID: f7b5831e-ead5-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 Patrick Kelly wrote: > [..] In my opinion, package managers are only a solution for systems that are > already a mess. I've said it before, I downright hate Windows, but it gets > by just fine without a package manager; Just install and uninstall > 'scripts'. Those scripts wouldn't even need to be necessary on Plan 9, or > any system that doesn't maliciously abuse a central configuration system. [..] As a MS-Windows end user one gets inevitably to know that a 'Windows Installer' is required to install new Software and that there are some rules all well behaved "packages" abide, since an installed application is made visible in the start menu and uninstallable via the control panel. There is more to Windows 'package managment' then 'scripts' - there are rules, conventions. It seems to me, that a few more scripts, conventions and rules for system, contrib and third-party applications will ease setting up and administering Plan9 systems. I am very greatful to Federico G. Benavento for implementing contrib and really looking forward for Anthony Sorace's experience with third-party packages installed in /opt in Inferno. This thread also has given some very good examples and insight on how the proven Plan9'ers get their work done - thanks for the lessons learned. The solution that feels 'right' will inevitable emerge and this thread has surely been a step forward in the right direction. Best Regards, Jorge-Le�n