From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-Id: <4BE031BC020000CC00028B2E@wlgw07.wlu.ca> Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 14:39:56 -0400 From: "Karljurgen Feuerherm" To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@9fans.net> References: <455f59971ace96897640df2bff497ce3@kw.quanstro.net> <4FDD3B61-CA0D-446E-A05B-204B4866D755@fastmail.fm> <420020.3484.qm@web1208.biz.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <420020.3484.qm@web1208.biz.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: [9fans] du and find Topicbox-Message-UUID: 1a809a28-ead6-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 My impression as an undergraduate in CS was that most of my peers were mechanics, rather than artists. They could ape things, but only few could see past what was shown and apply the principles abstractly. This may have to do with failure in the earlier education--I remember that again, peers could do =27picture frame problems=27 but without any = real comprehension of the actual algebra. On the other hand, it may just be a question of what human beings are, and how few artists there are, proportionately speaking.... K >>> Gabriel D=C3=ADaz 04/05/2010 12:56 pm >>> Hello (about students/trainees and perl) Being able to recognize what you=27ve studied in your daily work is quite difficult in most places. Also your work objectives are rarely related to the correctness, in the sense of science. I mean something correct or well enough for the business could not be correct or well enough from the science point of view. Speaking about non programming-related business, for me, it=27s enough if a student is able to use or ask for a programming language to solve a task perl, vbscript or whatever. I=27ve seen a couple of times students matching two lists of thousands of entries by hand, either in paper or in the original excel format. And I=27ve seen mentors and managers agree with the method. If they can write regexp, even ugly ones, that=27s enough, you can show them alternatives, suggest other ways, etc. The fail is not the school, or not completely. The tools are given to you, it is not usual you can choose the tool you want to use to finish a task. In nice places, you might be able to propose one. . . slds. gabi