From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <4C2B613A.3070803@authentrus.com> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 11:22:34 -0400 From: Wes Kussmaul User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> References: <1449883d7baedf2bc03d0857a73b6a98@coraid.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [9fans] offered without comment or judgement Topicbox-Message-UUID: 3b1ed4d4-ead6-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 erik quanstrom wrote: > also, an atm card is a 2-factor authentication scheme. and > you get 3 guesses. assuming you can steal the card Assuming you are a member of the main source of Net fraud, that is, a customer of one of the botnet builders doing 30 thousand victims at a time from your command center in Estonia, what are the chances of stealing 30,000 physical cards per round of theft? > a better attack might be to shoulder surf and then socially > engineer the bank into sending you a card. Onesies, how quaint. Almost a lost art. wk -- Learn about The Authenticity Economy at http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1419344994607129684&hl=en#