From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <4DF8E773.8010008@0x6a.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 12:10:11 -0500 From: Jack Norton User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> References: <201106151848.14730.dexen.devries@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <201106151848.14730.dexen.devries@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [9fans] Mousing is faster than typing but users do not believe it Topicbox-Message-UUID: efac327a-ead6-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 dexen deVries wrote: > On Wednesday 15 of June 2011 18:23:56 David Leimbach wrote: >> http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2657135 > > I'm getting tired of the level of groupthink. Yesterday it was about > Anthropogenetic Global Warming^W^W^W Anthropogenic Climate Change (with a > comment stating pretty much ``whether the themperatures go up or down it will > be /obviously/ our fault anyway''); today it's mouse vs. keyboard. The > argument? ``it feels faster in my Vim''. Geebuz. > > my take on it at > http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2657818 > eh, I always figured that if you are proficient at a given interface (you're over the learning curve) the differences here are minimal at best. So what if I gain a few seconds here and there. I'm going to be stuck behind the computer for a few hours anyway... In the case of plan 9, I love how the textual interfaces it promotes have *everything* in front of you. No bloody expanding menus, or mouse-hover pop-up retardations. So nevermind the speed, it is the consistency and elegance that should matter. For the sake of sanity, not speed. Would Plan 9 (rio) benefit from a default mapping of magic keystrokes that correspond to certain actions? I think so. But only as a means of saving your ass when your mouse explodes. Even then, grab another pc and drawterm or cpu in. I will say that some of the cool cording in Plan 9 interfaces will soon find a perfect mate in the capacitive or infrared touchscreens of today and tomorrow (single, double, triple finger taps on the screen, etc...). That is my take anyway. -Jack