From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-Id: <4E0C5549.94AB.00CC.0@wlu.ca> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 10:51:53 -0400 From: "Karljurgen Feuerherm" To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@9fans.net> References: <20110625171134.GA3661@polynum.com> <20110626075745.GA395@polynum.com> <20110627114856.GA7099@polynum.com> <9308c52f360f6274e0730399741278ce@ladd.quanstro.net> <20110627172006.GA497@polynum.com> <4E08DDDE.94AB.00CC.0@wlu.ca> <20110628111915.GA498@polynum.com> <4E0B804C.94AB.00CC.0@wlu.ca> <20110630130254.GA7276@polynum.com> In-Reply-To: <20110630130254.GA7276@polynum.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=__Part3E117199.0__=" Subject: Re: [9fans] [RFC] fonts and unicode/utf [TeX] Topicbox-Message-UUID: f87db554-ead6-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 This is a MIME message. If you are reading this text, you may want to consider changing to a mail reader or gateway that understands how to properly handle MIME multipart messages. --=__Part3E117199.0__= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for this. Two notes: >Re-reading it, it's not "all ligatures" that are gone with "Unicode-compliant fonts", but it spoke about the em- and en-dashes and double quotes. So on these ones, I plead guilty.=20 Alright. Not a big deal, it seems to me. >But starting with "modern fonts", "modern system", "archaic" and the like, it's like starting with: "only Adolf Hitler would still use not Unicode fonts". Looking here: http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?item_id=3Dxetex_f= aq ( http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?item_id=3Dxetex_faq ) I = cannot find this; you'll have to help me out.=20 But still: it's not about being Adolf Hitler by any means. XeTeX aims to = be a Unicode compliant system, and that means adhering to the Unicode = standard. I personally don't see a need to defend the purpose and use of = standards. If you don't want to, don't; you are free, as you said, to do = as you please, and no one is disputing that. But then you and everyone = else have to accept the obvious consequences. For all its flaws (and even = the encoding I helped to author has them), to *me* (and to the authors of = the FAQ you're looking at) the benefits far far outweigh the downsides.=20 Best=20 KF=20 --=__Part3E117199.0__= Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: HTML =20

Thanks for this. Two = notes:

>Re-= reading it, it's not "all ligatures" that are gone = with
"Unicode-compliant fonts", but it spoke about the = em- and en-dashes and
double quotes. So on these ones, I plead = guilty.


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Alright. Not a big deal, = it seems to me.

><= /font>But starting with "modern fonts", "modern = system", "archaic" and the
like, it's like = starting with: "only Adolf Hitler would still use not
Unicode = fonts".

Looking here: = htt= p://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?item_id=xetex_faq I cannot find = this; you'll have to help me out.


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But still: it's not = about being Adolf Hitler by any means. XeTeX aims to be a Unicode = compliant system, and that means adhering to the Unicode standard. I = personally don't see a need to defend the purpose and use of standards.= If you don't want to, don't; you are free, as you = said, to do as you please, and no one is disputing that. But then = you and everyone else have to accept the obvious consequences. For all its = flaws (and even the encoding I helped to author has them), to = *me* (and to the authors of the FAQ you're looking at) = the benefits far far outweigh the downsides.


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Best


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KF

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