From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <4E230D0B.1060606@yahoo.fr> Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 18:25:47 +0200 From: Nicolas Bercher User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; fr_FR; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20110704 Icedove/3.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@9fans.net References: <201107022036.52943.dexen.devries@gmail.com> <249b2a9106d6258a2484fa9b14ecea0b@ladd.quanstro.net> <958e05563c61b440a0b79507677d27c4@ladd.quanstro.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [9fans] novel userspace paradigms introduced by plan 9 Topicbox-Message-UUID: 0393b47a-ead7-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On 03/07/2011 23:08, andrey mirtchovski wrote: >> they've changed everything else in unix, why hold so tightly to the clearly >> > unhelpful ideas? > because it's a cult. things don't make sense in cults. i encountered > the following quote the other day, which finally convinced me. OK, maybe this is about cult, but the first paper I read about Plan 9 mentioned that Plan 9 was born because it was too much complicated to fix Unix. So, I see Plan 9 as a fork in the whole Unix history. The rest of the *nix OSes are just pursuing their own ways with "old fashioned concepts" that are hard to remove, or maybe impossible. Nicolas PS: Andrey, I'm currently reading your master thesis. I feel the same pleasure reading it as reading Linus stuff, because it is well written. Linux is going his own way, with root and without private namaespaces, and still, I'm happy with that.