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From: Kenji Okamoto <okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp>
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Thank you, geoff.

In a short word, my argument is that we should pay more respects to those
who are sharing their own time to others.   Of course, I know we can empl=
oy
more people with high quality if more money.   This is true everywhere=20
professional works are concerned though.  =20

It's easy to say that quality of some free software are bad from the view=
 point=20
of skilled professionals.   However, we must remind that the programmer w=
ho=20
are working without pay are shareing their own time, not full-time of the=
m,=20
which is same to us after Plan 9 became to a free software.   As you know=
 the=20
quality of Plan 9 itself is now going down, if we cpmpare it with ,say, R=
elease 2=20
or 3.   I think this is very natural, because we have now no full-time pr=
ogrammer=20
of Plan 9.

Being said above, I still love Plan 9 because of its beatiful design and =
codes,
very easy to understand and to read!   I feel Plan 9 has her own future, =
if we=20
could continue to develope its philosophy.   The problem is how we can ge=
t=20
more programmer even though we cannot pay them money in a future.   I thi=
nk=20
Linux people may have a solution or at least trying to get it with strugg=
ling.

>So my
> preferences in code would be, in order of decreasing desirability:
> Plan 9, Research Unix, OpenBSD (they at least try to pay attention to
> security issues), *BSD, Linux, full stop.

My preference is only Plan 9, because I don't know Research Unix.=E2=98=BA

> Actually there's another reason to choose Linux last (other than
> Windows):=20

I chose Linux because it's the best spread lunix, and I can use it as my =
own
base for working (actually, I may not need sources of it, because it's ju=
st a
running base for applications to me).   From this view point, I doubt the=
re is=20
any value to pay attention to other Unices, because we have Plan 9.

> I don't know if that answers your questions, Kenji.

You did, geoff.

Kenji