From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <4e2477d05bbed8057514bdd680054595@proxima.alt.za> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] tab completion and command history in rc Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 10:50:51 +0200 From: lucio@proxima.alt.za In-Reply-To: <436AF189.2080909@lanl.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Topicbox-Message-UUID: a588d0a0-ead0-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 > So, Rian, if there's stuff you find you miss on Plan 9, it may be you > have not learned a "Plan 9" way to do things, or it may be that Plan 9 > environment is lacking in some way. I think many of us take a guilty > pleasure in ^F. I know I do. What else might we like from the unix world > that we don't talk about? It would be interesting to see. A list on the wiki would not go amiss. No harm in a bit of objectivity and soul searching. In passing, it's great news that VESA and a new VM are about to happen, shows that in important places Plan 9 is still significant enough to assign valuable resources to. But, as Ron points out, Plan 9 has its own "True Way (TM)" that occasionally puts a huge spanner in the works. One of my gripes is the PC keyboard. I haven't a clue what contorsions the kernel goes through to provide the final product, but the end result is not what I would ask for. For example, the tap is used to switch the "console" on a two-way switch I'm using: that generates two Peter faces in Plan 9. Wrong? Maybe not, but it's too different to be declared exemplary. And for all that using the mouse is demonstrated to be faster, as long as mouse _and_ keyboard are both in use, I think pulling one's hands off the keyboard to re-position the cursor is a silly necessity (as demonstrated by the introduction of cursor-right and cursor-left keys). Now let me go look at hiding that fat arrow out of the way while I type with both hands. ++L