From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <4f9bdc4c0703081701j669743d2j4652aa03e0f6fa8a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 17:01:50 -0800 From: "Joel Franusic" To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan9 for a newbie In-Reply-To: <4400cfa5ffd50dcf686dddc51dcfd60f@yourdomain.dom> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <13426df10703081340u4a6fdbc8w6ac44c0ceb12c63b@mail.gmail.com> <4400cfa5ffd50dcf686dddc51dcfd60f@yourdomain.dom> Topicbox-Message-UUID: 1c9930b2-ead2-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 Writing a "hello world" resulted in several "oh wow" moments for me... On 3/8/07, Federico G. Benavento wrote: > I like to show this rc script to newbies > http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/contrib/fgb/rc/telnet > yes, Plan 9 is this powerful > > Federico G. Benavento > > --- > /bin/fortune: > When the going gets tough, the tough go shopping. > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "ron minnich" > To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@cse.psu.edu> > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 14:40:10 -0700 > Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan9 for a newbie > who needs command history? > > grep something /dev/text > > Also, I saw something in X11 lately. It was a desktop with a bunch of > xterms. When you resized one xterm, all the others resized so they all > remained tiled. > > Plan 9 has had this for many years. Startup acme. Put win in the top > tagline. middle-click 6 or 7 tiimes. Not only do you get the same > thing, but you can trivially edit and do things in each window. > > Try acme mail. Not perfect, but man it's faster than thunderbird. And > look at how it handles attachments. Very cool. > > Start up a rio term window. Note that it is NOT a teletype attached to > a window, as in X11. After all, xterms have a baud rate. Just mouse > up, and note you can edit stuff. > > Suppose you have a bunch of junk in a window, and you don't want to > see it, but you want the rest. On Unix, you type 'clear' and start > again. In the rio term window, just select a bunch of text, and delete > it. > > Learn chords, like left-button-select, then middle. Then left, and > right. Very handy. > > Run rio in a term window. > > 9fs sources. cd /n/sources. Have fun. > > Run abaco. Note that you can tile web pages horizontally and > vertically. And you can see all the URLs ... > > See how much code it takes to write a web browser in plan 9 -- look at > abaco source. > > note there is no 'ftp' command. Who the heck needs ftp? Just run ftpfs. Done. > > tarfs. > > There's just so much stuff there. Check out acid -- see how it works. > See how it's built. Then wonder "why isn't every debugger built this > way". > > man plumber. > > The list is pretty endless. It just shows that with the right starting > point, you can do so much better than linux or x11 or all the stuff we > take for granted. I get really angry sometimes, using Linux. In fact I > just broke the U key on this laptop 2 days ago -- typed just a little > too hard and off it went. Now there's just a funny little blue thing > where U used to be. > > thanks > > ron >