From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v750) In-Reply-To: References: <4ef97ffa3f0bbb8004fb870726536e2c@collyer.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <50097123-1D9F-400C-BABA-3F9A4B352733@orthanc.ca> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Lyndon Nerenberg Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 18:39:42 -0700 To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: [9fans] quantity vs. quality Topicbox-Message-UUID: 5ff668b2-ead1-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Jun 7, 2006, at 6:07 PM, Latchesar Ionkov wrote: > I don't think the Plan9 community has the resources (both in > numbers and quality) to continue the development. We need fresh blood. No, we need fresh ideas. An infinite number of monkeys turning Plan 9 into Linux is not progress. The latest copy of login (the Usenix newsletter) has an editorial lamenting how UNIX just doesn't fit the current one-user-one-machine paradigm we see today, and how we need to re-think how things are done in this regard. Yet Plan 9 has already been doing this for over a decade. Plan 9's "future" is in guiding the UNIX community forward, not in regressing back to what spawned it in the first place. And I sincerely hope that doesn't happen by having Plan 9 be adopted wholesale by the masses, for that would (sooner or later) see the end of research and innovation for the sake of not breaking all the currently running apps, which is what caused UNIX to start growing mold. I would much rather see Plan 9 stay small and mostly ignored, since that's how it will remain agile and pliable. It's the *ideas* from Plan 9 (e.g. the servers, namespaces) that will help the masses morph their current environment into something suitable for the 21st century. --lyndon