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AAAA); spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=ori@eigenstate.org smtp.helo=mimir.eigenstate.org; x-aligned-from=pass (Address match); x-me-sender=none; x-ptr=fail smtp.helo=mimir.eigenstate.org policy.ptr=""; x-return-mx=pass header.domain=eigenstate.org policy.is_org=yes (MX Records found: eigenstate.org,mail.pikopiko.org,kusuri.pikopiko.org,nokogiri.pikopiko.org); x-return-mx=pass smtp.domain=eigenstate.org policy.is_org=yes (MX Records found: eigenstate.org,mail.pikopiko.org,kusuri.pikopiko.org,nokogiri.pikopiko.org); x-tls=pass smtp.version=TLSv1.2 smtp.cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 smtp.bits=256/256; x-vs=clean score=0 state=0 X-ME-VSCause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvgedruddtgdduudehucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdggtfgfnhhsuhgsshgtrhhisggvpdfu rfetoffkrfgpnffqhgenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucenucfjughrpefkvffuff fhjgggtgfgsehtjeejtddttddvnecuhfhrohhmpehorhhisegvihhgvghnshhtrghtvgdr ohhrghenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpedvhedtfeefteeglefhgeekhefhuefhhedvvdeiud euheejteegveekiedtveeuhfenucfkphepvddtiedruddvgedrudefvddruddtjedpudej vddruddtvddruddvrdejvdenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepih hnvghtpedvtdeirdduvdegrddufedvrddutdejpdhhvghlohepmhhimhhirhdrvghighgv nhhsthgrthgvrdhorhhgpdhmrghilhhfrhhomhepoehorhhisegvihhgvghnshhtrghtvg drohhrgheq X-ME-VSScore: 0 X-ME-VSCategory: clean Received-SPF: pass (eigenstate.org: 206.124.132.107 is authorized to use 'ori@eigenstate.org' in 'mfrom' identity (mechanism 'mx' matched)) receiver=tb-mx1.topicbox.com; identity=mailfrom; envelope-from="ori@eigenstate.org"; helo=mimir.eigenstate.org; client-ip=206.124.132.107 Received: from mimir.eigenstate.org (unknown [206.124.132.107]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by tb-mx1.topicbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS for <9fans@9fans.net>; Sun, 30 Oct 2022 14:24:30 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ori@eigenstate.org) Received: from stockyard ( [172.102.12.72]) by mimir.eigenstate.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 9b39388b (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256:NO) for <9fans@9fans.net>; Sun, 30 Oct 2022 11:24:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <51836158C37DE6BC5B0D65B9E90CA3DE@eigenstate.org> To: 9fans@9fans.net Subject: Re: [9fans] the practicality of plan 9 Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2022 14:24:26 -0400 From: ori@eigenstate.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Topicbox-Policy-Reasoning: allow: sender is a member Topicbox-Message-UUID: 1beca936-5880-11ed-9085-f13c5549db06 Archived-At: =?UTF-8?B?PGh0dHBzOi8vOWZhbnMudG9waWNib3guY29tL2dyb3Vwcy85?= =?UTF-8?B?ZmFucy9UZDZjNGJlNmQ4NTAyZGJkMC1NZGUxMDllNmMzYTZhMThiNjQzMDZh?= =?UTF-8?B?YzFkPg==?= List-Help: List-Id: "9fans" <9fans.9fans.net> List-Post: List-Software: Topicbox v0 List-Subscribe: Precedence: list Reply-To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> List-Unsubscribe: , Topicbox-Delivery-ID: 2:9fans:437d30aa-c441-11e9-8a57-d036212d11b0:522be890-2105-11eb-b15e-8d699134e1fa:Mde109e6c3a6a18b64306ac1d:1:ThBKd8yttcswO3Mu73Jx9uBrH39NCZ06cYEzGHx6JZA Quoth fig : > so i ask: what are ways i could make a grid really shine? through design > and/or usage, things that make a grid nice to have. i still enjoy 9front = on > a single machine, and plan9port is now a must-have on my unix machines. i > know plan 9 wants a network, but why would a user want plan 9 to have a > network? if that makes any sense :^) As a single user, the biggest benefit I get is being able to rapidly test and debug, with netboot, shared binaries, and the ability to panic without losing any work, and being able to share stuff with my home machine when I'm hacking in a coffee shop (like I am now) With a group of people, being able to share servers means being able to share work. At the hackathon last summer, we had set up a CPU/file server. We were netbooting test kernels, but also sharing our work in progress, data, and documents via our home dirs, getting feedback, and even at times just editing other people's files (the file server had permissions wide open) ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Td6c4be6d8502dbd0-Mde109= e6c3a6a18b64306ac1d Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription