From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <51E4719B.2010206@robinlea.com> Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 05:03:07 +0700 From: john francis lee User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130329 Thunderbird/17.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [9fans] Moderator's Note: comp.os.plan9 Newsgroup. Topicbox-Message-UUID: 6c1294b6-ead8-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 Isn't google the now well-known devil itself ? On 07/15/2013 11:04 PM, hiro wrote: > Will your replacement set up a facebook or google-plus relay then? > I thought about this already for quite some time after I've seen the > successful migration of both tech-savy and novice users to web 2.0 > services. There is just no way to argue against finally making it > possible to fully exploit our modern touch-interfaces that also make > it so trivial to include scrolling media rich content, images, videos > without the typical mimecode problems. > > On 7/15/13, 9fans@mail2news.bath.ac.uk <9fans@mail2news.bath.ac.uk> wrote: >> The comp.os.plan9 Usenet Newsgroup is a moderated Newsgroup. >> Articles require approval before being posted. It has been >> moderated from here, the University of Bath, since the 1990's. I, >> the current moderator, will be leaving the University at the end of >> this month and our Usenet server will be turned off in late August >> of this year. So a new moderator for comp.os.plan9 is required. >> >> Newsgroup articles are also sent to the 9fans mailing list. >> Messages sent to the 9fans mailing list are auto-injected into the >> comp.os.plan9 Usenet Newsgroup. This bi-directional gateway will >> disappear when our Usenet server is turned off. So a volunteer to >> take over this service is also required. >> >> Further details of the above are given below. >> >> Moderating the Newsgroup isn't labour-intensive. For example I've >> approved and posted some 18 articles in the last three months. The >> vast majority of these articles have arrived via Google Groups. >> >> The moderator will need access to a Usenet system and have the right >> to post articles to a moderated Newsgroup. I.e. articles from the >> moderator which include an Approved: header are accepted. Volunteer >> moderators are requested. >> >> I suspect the reason that moderating the Newsgroup isn't arduous is >> that the majority of the articles in the comp.os.plan9 Newsgroup are >> gatewayed in from the 9fans mailing list at: >> >> http://plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/mailing_lists/ >> >> and most serious plan9 adherents are members of this mailing list. >> >> Currently our Usenet server acts as a bi-directional gateway. >> The articles from the 9fans mailing list are injected into the >> comp.os.plan9 Newsgroup and articles approved for the Newsgroup are >> sent on to the mailing list. >> >> Gatewaying the 9fans mailing list into the Newsgroup will obviously >> keep running until our Usenet server is switched off, but a >> replacement elsewhere is ideally required. >> >> The minimum requirement for gatewaying mailing list articles into >> the Newsgroup is to be subscribed to the 9fans mailing list and >> have access to a Usenet system with the right to post articles to a >> moderated Newsgroup. >> >> Manually injecting 9fans mailing list articles into the Newsgroup >> is labour-intensive. It needs to be automated. There are probably >> several ways of doing this, but we've set this up directly on our >> Usenet server. Our setup is similar to the following. >> >> We use the mail domain mail2news.bath.ac.uk for mailing lists we >> wish to inject into Newsgroups. Mail for this domain is handled by >> the Usenet server, which is running exim as its MTA and INN as its >> Usenet software. All incoming email is checked for viruses using >> ClamAV. >> >> An address in the mail2news.bath.ac.uk domain is subscribed to the >> 9fans mailing list. Email arriving for this address is checked to >> see it has the correct envelope sender (9fans-bounces@9fans.net). >> If so, the INN program "mailpost" is used to inject the message >> into the Newsgroup. The "mailpost" program keeps a record of the >> Message-ID's it has seen. So there's no problem with looping, ie >> the attempted injection of the same message a repeated number of >> times. >> >> Newsgroup articles could be injected into the mailing list by using >> INN "news2mail" channel script. However, betraying my original >> Cnews roots, this is done by a shell script driven by the fragment: >> >> # Inject articles posted to the comp.os.plan9 Newsgroup back into >> # the mailing list, 9fans@9fans.net, using a locally written script. >> # The script should include safeguards against looping, ie not >> # re-injecting articles that originally came from the mailing list. >> plan9mail!\ >> :comp.os.plan9\ >> :Tp:/opt/news/bin/plan9mail %s >> >> in INN's newsfeeds file. >> >> The above script uses the news2mail program from the antique but >> usable newsgate.tar.Z package to send email. The anti-looping >> checks include ensuring the Newsgroup article doesn't include a >> header of the form: >> >> X-BeenThere: 9fans@9fans.net >> >> which indicates this was a 9fans mailing list article injected into >> Newsgroup. >> >> The above may sound complex, but it's fairly maintenance free once >> set up. We clearly won't be able to continue with this service once >> our Usenet server is decommissioned. A volunteer to set up and run >> a similar service is required. >> -- >> Dennis Davis, BUCS, University of Bath, Bath, BA2 7AY, UK >> D.H.Davis@bath.ac.uk Phone: +44 1225 386101 >> >> -- john francis lee 246/3 Moo 22 Thanon Kaew Wai Mueang Chiangrai 57000 Thailand