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From: Paul Lalonde <plalonde@telus.net>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: [9fans] nvidia scrolling performance
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 18:00:16 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <551EA1F6-28BF-4F57-99B0-3E6A6EEFC659@telus.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bcfd5d660ea61c5a27957d613b82437d@quanstro.net>

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8G/s? Nowhere near enough.  Enough for text, but try doing real
computation using that GPU...
PS3 is running 25G/s bi-directional.  Those bits move.

Paul

On 30-Apr-06, at 5:52 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:

> i only have a pci card, but someone with an agp card and a machine
> that
> allows bios-controlled agp bandwidth could eliminate some
> possibilities.
> if it's bus limited, then the total performance should be linear in
> agp
> bus speed, right?  of course we still wouldn't know which direction on
> the bus was limiting.
>
> perhaps it's time to add another machine to the second-hand
> hardware collection.
> ;-)
>
> pci-x (1.066G/s) has the same bandwidth as PCIe x4 (1G/s).
> PCIe SLI = 2 * 16x = 8G/s, which ought to be enough for just about
> anyone.
>
> - erik
>
> On Sun Apr 30 13:13:21 CDT 2006, steve@quintile.net wrote:
>>> Frame buffer memory is very very slow to read from,
>>> and not just on nvidia.  When I did some timings six years
>>> ago, I found that reading from frame buffer memory
>>> was slower than reading from disk.  I'm sure the situation
>>> hasn't gotten better.  It's not on the fast path for any
>>> other system, so the vendors just don't care.
>>
>> I may be talking rubbish but I understood this is a fundamental
>> problem with reading VGA memory over the PCI bus. VGA cards are
>> designed for fast writes and not fast reads.
>>
>> People have been very interested in using the GCPUs in graphics cards
>> to do video processing (to disk rather than for display) but the
>> limiting
>> factor seems to have been the speed at which data can be read back.
>> I do hear that some cards are appearing with dual PCIX which will
>> allow
>> symetric access speeds to the frame buffer.
>>
>> -Steve
>>

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  reply	other threads:[~2006-05-01  1:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-05-01  0:52 erik quanstrom
2006-05-01  1:00 ` Paul Lalonde [this message]
2006-05-02 22:55 ` [9fans] " Paweł Lasek
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-05-05 18:08 [9fans] " erik quanstrom
2006-05-05 17:22 erik quanstrom
2006-05-05 17:32 ` Paul Lalonde
2006-05-05 16:08 erik quanstrom
2006-05-05 16:42 ` David Leimbach
2006-05-05 15:46 erik quanstrom
2006-05-05 15:56 ` Paul Lalonde
2006-05-05 16:01   ` David Leimbach
2006-05-05 16:21     ` Paul Lalonde
2006-05-05 16:59       ` David Leimbach
2006-05-05 16:05   ` Wes
2006-05-05 17:07   ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-05-05 17:30     ` Paul Lalonde
2006-05-01  0:30 erik quanstrom
2006-05-01 17:44 ` Russ Cox
2006-05-01 17:57   ` Artem Letko
2006-05-01 19:02     ` Russ Cox
2006-04-29 21:39 erik quanstrom
2006-04-30  4:00 ` jmk
2006-04-30 16:10 ` Russ Cox
2006-04-30 18:12   ` Steve Simon
2006-04-30 22:34     ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-05-01  6:52       ` Nigel Roles
2006-05-01 19:58         ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-05-01 20:10           ` David Leimbach

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