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* [9fans] acid on linux; easiest-to-set-up virtual machine
@ 2013-01-25 17:49 rudolf.sykora
  2013-01-25 18:18 ` cinap_lenrek
  2013-01-25 18:19 ` cinap_lenrek
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: rudolf.sykora @ 2013-01-25 17:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

Hello everyone,

I'd like to play with acid.
However, I run p9p (on linux), and thus acid is not really fully
functional.
What is currently the easiest way to set up an environment in which I
could play with acid? Is it running proper plan9 on a virtual machine?
(If yes, which is then the simplest to set up?) Or can somehow 9vx be
used?

(Note, I have never tried any virtual machine before; and have no
experience with 9vx, either.)

Thank you!
Ruda




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* Re: [9fans] acid on linux; easiest-to-set-up virtual machine
  2013-01-25 17:49 [9fans] acid on linux; easiest-to-set-up virtual machine rudolf.sykora
@ 2013-01-25 18:18 ` cinap_lenrek
  2013-01-25 19:03   ` James Chapman
  2013-01-25 18:19 ` cinap_lenrek
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: cinap_lenrek @ 2013-01-25 18:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

vmware, kvm/qemu, vbox should all work.

--
cinap



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* Re: [9fans] acid on linux; easiest-to-set-up virtual machine
  2013-01-25 17:49 [9fans] acid on linux; easiest-to-set-up virtual machine rudolf.sykora
  2013-01-25 18:18 ` cinap_lenrek
@ 2013-01-25 18:19 ` cinap_lenrek
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: cinap_lenrek @ 2013-01-25 18:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

also, maybe you just give it a try on real hardware.
its not really rocket science.

--
cinap



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* Re: [9fans] acid on linux; easiest-to-set-up virtual machine
  2013-01-25 18:18 ` cinap_lenrek
@ 2013-01-25 19:03   ` James Chapman
  2013-01-25 19:15     ` cinap_lenrek
  2013-01-25 21:51     ` cinap_lenrek
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: James Chapman @ 2013-01-25 19:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs

I have had recent sucess with VirtualBox 4.1.24. The current version
of VirtualBox (4.2.6) didn't work for me.

You can get older version of virtualbox from here:

https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Download_Old_Builds

James

On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 8:18 PM,  <cinap_lenrek@gmx.de> wrote:
> vmware, kvm/qemu, vbox should all work.
>
> --
> cinap
>



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* Re: [9fans] acid on linux; easiest-to-set-up virtual machine
  2013-01-25 19:03   ` James Chapman
@ 2013-01-25 19:15     ` cinap_lenrek
  2013-01-25 19:46       ` James Chapman
  2013-01-25 21:51     ` cinap_lenrek
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: cinap_lenrek @ 2013-01-25 19:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

whats the problem with this version?

--
cinap



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* Re: [9fans] acid on linux; easiest-to-set-up virtual machine
  2013-01-25 19:15     ` cinap_lenrek
@ 2013-01-25 19:46       ` James Chapman
  2013-01-25 20:32         ` Gorka Guardiola
  2013-01-25 22:35         ` cinap_lenrek
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: James Chapman @ 2013-01-25 19:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs

It hangs during booting.

The same as this I think:

https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=52431


On Jan 25, 2013, at 9:15 PM, cinap_lenrek@gmx.de wrote:

> whats the problem with this version?
>
> --
> cinap
>




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* Re: [9fans] acid on linux; easiest-to-set-up virtual machine
  2013-01-25 19:46       ` James Chapman
@ 2013-01-25 20:32         ` Gorka Guardiola
  2013-01-25 20:47           ` Gorka Guardiola
  2013-01-25 22:35         ` cinap_lenrek
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Gorka Guardiola @ 2013-01-25 20:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs; +Cc: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs

In the standard plan 9, e820 scan. When disabled, a vesa bug which 9front circunvents with realemu.


On Jan 25, 2013, at 8:46 PM, James Chapman <james@cs.ioc.ee> wrote:

> It hangs during booting.
> 
> The same as this I think:
> 
> https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=52431
> 
> 
> On Jan 25, 2013, at 9:15 PM, cinap_lenrek@gmx.de wrote:
> 
>> whats the problem with this version?
>> 
>> --
>> cinap
> 
> 



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* Re: [9fans] acid on linux; easiest-to-set-up virtual machine
  2013-01-25 20:32         ` Gorka Guardiola
@ 2013-01-25 20:47           ` Gorka Guardiola
  2013-01-25 21:53             ` cinap_lenrek
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Gorka Guardiola @ 2013-01-25 20:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs

On Jan 25, 2013, at 9:32 PM, Gorka Guardiola <paurea@gmail.com> wrote:

> In the standard plan 9, e820 scan. When disabled, a vesa bug which 9front circunvents with realemu.

This fits also the description given. Going to real mode is broken in the standard plan 9 in virtualbox.

G.




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* Re: [9fans] acid on linux; easiest-to-set-up virtual machine
  2013-01-25 19:03   ` James Chapman
  2013-01-25 19:15     ` cinap_lenrek
@ 2013-01-25 21:51     ` cinap_lenrek
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: cinap_lenrek @ 2013-01-25 21:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

i just installed the latest version of vbox 4.2.6 on windows xp
and 9front boots just fine. there where no changes related
to supporting vbox. the only problem we had was a bug in realemu some
time ago that got exposed with the vbox vesa bios but that doesnt
apply to stock plan9. maybe 9load problem? did you got the kernel
loaded? maybe its because we use apic interrupts by default?

http://9hal.ath.cx/usr/cinap_lenrek/vbox.4.2.6.png

--
cinap



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* Re: [9fans] acid on linux; easiest-to-set-up virtual machine
  2013-01-25 20:47           ` Gorka Guardiola
@ 2013-01-25 21:53             ` cinap_lenrek
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: cinap_lenrek @ 2013-01-25 21:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

ah! e820 scan makes sense. we do that in the 9boot loader only. the
kernel never switches back to realmode.

--
cinap



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* Re: [9fans] acid on linux; easiest-to-set-up virtual machine
  2013-01-25 19:46       ` James Chapman
  2013-01-25 20:32         ` Gorka Guardiola
@ 2013-01-25 22:35         ` cinap_lenrek
  2013-02-01  2:39           ` ron minnich
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: cinap_lenrek @ 2013-01-25 22:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

btw. it took like 5 minutes for vbox to start executing my
vm... and its like 20 seconds to change the iso image in
the virtual cdrom drive. and the installer had me to click
10 times to confirm all the drivers getting installed.

every new version of vbox seems to make it worse.

maybe use vmware or kvm/qemu instead?

--
cinap



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* Re: [9fans] acid on linux; easiest-to-set-up virtual machine
  2013-01-25 22:35         ` cinap_lenrek
@ 2013-02-01  2:39           ` ron minnich
  2013-02-01  5:28             ` Charles Forsyth
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: ron minnich @ 2013-02-01  2:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs

vbox is a useful bit paperweight. Maybe you have too many bits, and
they might float away. Use vbox to hold them down. If you ever need
the bits vbox is holding down, then you can set those bits free by
removing vbox.

I think it has some other alleged use but I have not had much luck with that.

ron



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* Re: [9fans] acid on linux; easiest-to-set-up virtual machine
  2013-02-01  2:39           ` ron minnich
@ 2013-02-01  5:28             ` Charles Forsyth
  2013-02-01  8:06               ` Bence Fábián
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Charles Forsyth @ 2013-02-01  5:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs

I couldn't get the vbox I downloaded to work properly with Solaris.
Several hours of my life are missing.

On 1 February 2013 02:39, ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com> wrote:
> vbox is a useful bit paperweight. Maybe you have too many bits, and
> they might float away. Use vbox to hold them down. If you ever need
> the bits vbox is holding down, then you can set those bits free by
> removing vbox.
>
> I think it has some other alleged use but I have not had much luck with that.
>
> ron
>



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* Re: [9fans] acid on linux; easiest-to-set-up virtual machine
  2013-02-01  5:28             ` Charles Forsyth
@ 2013-02-01  8:06               ` Bence Fábián
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Bence Fábián @ 2013-02-01  8:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs

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Sun products not running on solaris are always fun.
Anyone remembers the leaked java memo?


2013/2/1 Charles Forsyth <charles.forsyth@gmail.com>

> I couldn't get the vbox I downloaded to work properly with Solaris.
> Several hours of my life are missing.
>
> On 1 February 2013 02:39, ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com> wrote:
> > vbox is a useful bit paperweight. Maybe you have too many bits, and
> > they might float away. Use vbox to hold them down. If you ever need
> > the bits vbox is holding down, then you can set those bits free by
> > removing vbox.
> >
> > I think it has some other alleged use but I have not had much luck with
> that.
> >
> > ron
> >
>
>

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2013-01-25 18:18 ` cinap_lenrek
2013-01-25 19:03   ` James Chapman
2013-01-25 19:15     ` cinap_lenrek
2013-01-25 19:46       ` James Chapman
2013-01-25 20:32         ` Gorka Guardiola
2013-01-25 20:47           ` Gorka Guardiola
2013-01-25 21:53             ` cinap_lenrek
2013-01-25 22:35         ` cinap_lenrek
2013-02-01  2:39           ` ron minnich
2013-02-01  5:28             ` Charles Forsyth
2013-02-01  8:06               ` Bence Fábián
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