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From: erik quanstrom <quanstro@labs.coraid.com>
To: 9fans@9fans.net
Subject: Re: [9fans] Scrolling considered harmful
Date: Fri,  3 May 2013 14:57:12 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55d102273818f17528b64eab4ebd9b52@coraid.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130503185151.GA948@polynum.com>

> I have retrieved atom aux/realemu and I will have to test.
>
> But before, I will have to read the aux/vga sources to understand what
> it expects. Because aux/vga -p gives me all the informations about the
> vesa supported modes of the card, and even the monitor settings (I
> wonder that the problem is here, that is monitor and card "discuss" and
> the software is not part of the discussion). The informations (vesa: the
> RADEON card; edid: the monitor 1600x900):

the problem is that the VBE calls that are used to set up
various video modes jump to vendor-provided real mode
code that is often buggy.  the reason for emulation is
(a) to avoid problems associated with real-mode code
triggering interrupts the partial real-mode implementation

the 9 kernels provide is not prepared to handle, and
(b) to avoid invalid accesses caused by buggy real-mode
code.

yes it sounds implausable that the vendor code could be
that broken, but it's true!

- erik



  reply	other threads:[~2013-05-03 18:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-23 13:35 tlaronde
2013-04-23 13:37 ` erik quanstrom
2013-04-23 14:46   ` tlaronde
2013-04-23 15:18     ` erik quanstrom
2013-04-23 16:17       ` tlaronde
2013-05-03 18:51       ` tlaronde
2013-05-03 18:57         ` erik quanstrom [this message]
2013-05-03 19:11           ` tlaronde
2013-05-06 13:24           ` tlaronde

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