From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <775b8d190709062109o1c0a64b8y55ceb79e95083ecb@mail.gmail.com> References: <13426df10709061238l1e081fel101928310c9db13c@mail.gmail.com> <1189134549.6197.2.camel@ginkgo> <775b8d190709062109o1c0a64b8y55ceb79e95083ecb@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <56818661-B933-4FC2-9522-203075455287@orthanc.ca> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Lyndon Nerenberg Subject: Re: [9fans] plan 9 overcommits memory? Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 21:25:41 -0700 To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Topicbox-Message-UUID: ba37b41a-ead2-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On 2007-Sep-6, at 21:09 , Bruce Ellis wrote: > someone written a line of relevant code during this "discussion"? Be careful. Coding to mailing list discussions results in Linux. FWIW, the discussion here has made more sense than any and all arguments/conversations I've had with UNIX vendors over the last decade-and-a-half. And I'm talking about both malloc and spawn. The concept of assembling processes in user space is intriguing, and I'd like to hear more from the people who have thought/played with the idea. I'm convinced there is no solution to brk; it's an untenable implementation (although it made perfect sense at the time). As long as our programming languages insist on direct memory pointers I don't see a way out. But so far all the alternatives just lead to madness ... --lyndon