* [9fans] 3e @ 2013-02-10 3:23 Benjamin Huntsman 2013-02-10 9:18 ` Steve Simon 2013-02-10 11:23 ` David du Colombier 0 siblings, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Benjamin Huntsman @ 2013-02-10 3:23 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans Because I'm a bit of a history buff too, and I'm looking at the Nemo book... Does anyone remember what the last and final date of the 3rd Edition was, and does anyone have the plan9.9gz and floppies around anymore? I was also trying to remember, did anyone get it working under VMware, or was that around the time of early 4th Edition? Anyway, pardon the odd question and thanks in advance! -Ben ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] 3e 2013-02-10 3:23 [9fans] 3e Benjamin Huntsman @ 2013-02-10 9:18 ` Steve Simon 2013-02-10 10:27 ` Charles Forsyth 2013-02-10 11:23 ` David du Colombier 1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Steve Simon @ 2013-02-10 9:18 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans I have a set of floppies somwhere but I don't have a floppy drive at home, if no one gets there first I and Charles doesn't mind I will put the images on sources on Monday. FYI I put some old stuff, though none of it 3rd ed, in /n/sources/steve/historic/* -Steve ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] 3e 2013-02-10 9:18 ` Steve Simon @ 2013-02-10 10:27 ` Charles Forsyth 2013-02-10 11:05 ` steve 0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Charles Forsyth @ 2013-02-10 10:27 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 161 bytes --] On 10 February 2013 09:18, Steve Simon <steve@quintile.net> wrote: > Charles doesn't mind I will it's nothing to do with me: it's bell labs' copyright. [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 500 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] 3e 2013-02-10 10:27 ` Charles Forsyth @ 2013-02-10 11:05 ` steve 0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: steve @ 2013-02-10 11:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 470 bytes --] ok, i was concerned that there might be issues of "mechanical copyright" as i bought it from you (VN) - though i don't really understand such laws. i will copy the disks if i can find a floppy drive. - Steve On 10 Feb 2013, at 10:27, Charles Forsyth <charles.forsyth@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 10 February 2013 09:18, Steve Simon <steve@quintile.net> wrote: >> Charles doesn't mind I will > > it's nothing to do with me: it's bell labs' copyright. > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 1109 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] 3e 2013-02-10 3:23 [9fans] 3e Benjamin Huntsman 2013-02-10 9:18 ` Steve Simon @ 2013-02-10 11:23 ` David du Colombier 2013-02-10 20:53 ` Benjamin Huntsman 1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: David du Colombier @ 2013-02-10 11:23 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans I have a copy of the Third Edition Plan 9 CD and floppy images. It is dated from 2000-06-07. I may distribute them if the license permit it. -- David du Colombier ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] 3e 2013-02-10 11:23 ` David du Colombier @ 2013-02-10 20:53 ` Benjamin Huntsman 2013-02-10 23:44 ` Steve Simon 2013-02-11 8:53 ` M.Stein 0 siblings, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Benjamin Huntsman @ 2013-02-10 20:53 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs Not sure why the licensing question came up. It was free back then, so I don't know why it wouldn't be now, unless Bell Labs revoked the previous license. More than anything I was trying to figure out the last release date. I've got a plan9.9gz file dated 20010327, and some odd patch files, the largest of which is 10140327.9gz dated Oct14, but I'm not sure if that's October 2000 or October 2001. Was hoping to hear if anyone had anything newer. Anyway, no worries... just fact-finding. Many thanks!! -Ben ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] 3e 2013-02-10 20:53 ` Benjamin Huntsman @ 2013-02-10 23:44 ` Steve Simon 2013-02-10 23:54 ` Charles Forsyth 2013-02-11 8:53 ` M.Stein 1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Steve Simon @ 2013-02-10 23:44 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans > Not sure why the licensing question came up. My fault, I was just a little unsure about copying the distribution floppies that VN had produced, I thought that checking with Charles would be polite. It turns out its all academic as I can only find the 2nd ed floppies, the 3rd ed one(s) if I ever had any have disappeared. Sorry for the noise. -Steve ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] 3e 2013-02-10 23:44 ` Steve Simon @ 2013-02-10 23:54 ` Charles Forsyth 2013-02-11 3:48 ` Venkatesh Srinivas 0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Charles Forsyth @ 2013-02-10 23:54 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 265 bytes --] On 10 February 2013 23:44, Steve Simon <steve@quintile.net> wrote: > My fault, I was just a little unsure about copying the > distribution floppies that VN had produced, > I think we only ever did CDs for 3rd. 2nd had floppies, but nothing to do with VN. [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 607 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] 3e 2013-02-10 23:54 ` Charles Forsyth @ 2013-02-11 3:48 ` Venkatesh Srinivas 2013-02-11 4:10 ` andrey mirtchovski 0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Venkatesh Srinivas @ 2013-02-11 3:48 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs How was 3E different from 2E and from 4E? -- vs; ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] 3e 2013-02-11 3:48 ` Venkatesh Srinivas @ 2013-02-11 4:10 ` andrey mirtchovski 2013-02-11 4:13 ` erik quanstrom ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: andrey mirtchovski @ 2013-02-11 4:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs > How was 3E different from 2E and from 4E? roughly (and other's view may differ): 2e + auth + 9p2k = 3e 3e + venti + fossil = 4e i think factotum and secstore are in the second equation too. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] 3e 2013-02-11 4:10 ` andrey mirtchovski @ 2013-02-11 4:13 ` erik quanstrom 2013-02-11 5:29 ` Skip Tavakkolian 2013-02-11 5:47 ` David du Colombier 2 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: erik quanstrom @ 2013-02-11 4:13 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans > 3e + venti + fossil = 4e what about 9p2000? - erik ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] 3e 2013-02-11 4:10 ` andrey mirtchovski 2013-02-11 4:13 ` erik quanstrom @ 2013-02-11 5:29 ` Skip Tavakkolian 2013-02-11 5:36 ` erik quanstrom 2013-02-11 5:47 ` David du Colombier 2 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Skip Tavakkolian @ 2013-02-11 5:29 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs i've not checked the 3e CD i have, but i'm pretty sure 9p2k was released with 4e (or just before). 2e to 3e also included a rewrite of acme from original alef to c; and alef was left behind. btw, i see 6c in 2nd ed, but it is not mentioned in the compiler paper; was that the i960? -Skip On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 8:10 PM, andrey mirtchovski <mirtchovski@gmail.com> wrote: >> How was 3E different from 2E and from 4E? > > roughly (and other's view may differ): > > 2e + auth + 9p2k = 3e > > 3e + venti + fossil = 4e > > i think factotum and secstore are in the second equation too. > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] 3e 2013-02-11 5:29 ` Skip Tavakkolian @ 2013-02-11 5:36 ` erik quanstrom 0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: erik quanstrom @ 2013-02-11 5:36 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans On Mon Feb 11 00:29:46 EST 2013, skip.tavakkolian@gmail.com wrote: > i've not checked the 3e CD i have, but i'm pretty sure 9p2k was > released with 4e (or just before). > > 2e to 3e also included a rewrite of acme from original alef to c; and > alef was left behind. > > btw, i see 6c in 2nd ed, but it is not mentioned in the compiler > paper; was that the i960? i960, according to 2c(1). - erik ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] 3e 2013-02-11 4:10 ` andrey mirtchovski 2013-02-11 4:13 ` erik quanstrom 2013-02-11 5:29 ` Skip Tavakkolian @ 2013-02-11 5:47 ` David du Colombier 2 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: David du Colombier @ 2013-02-11 5:47 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans > How was 3E different from 2E and from 4E? The different prefaces are a good summary: http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sys/man/preface.html http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sys/man/preface3.html http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sys/man/preface4.html > 2e + auth + 9p2k = 3e 9P2000 was part of the Fourth Edition. > 3e + venti + fossil = 4e Fossil came out on January 2003, while the Fourth Edition was released on April 2002. -- David du Colombier ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] 3e 2013-02-10 20:53 ` Benjamin Huntsman 2013-02-10 23:44 ` Steve Simon @ 2013-02-11 8:53 ` M.Stein 1 sibling, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: M.Stein @ 2013-02-11 8:53 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1946 bytes --] I have the files 03270425a.9gz, 06170729.9gz, 07291014.9gz and 10140327.9gz and beside this a file named 'versions', I'm not sure, where it comes from: 03270425a.9gz update 988250913 updating 985745432 03270507.9gz update 989254626 updating 985745432 03270526.9gz update 991073352 updating 985745432 03270605.9gz update 991764560 updating 985745432 03270614.9gz 03270910.9gz update 1000124880 updating 985745432 03271003.9gz update 1002125437 updating 985745432 03271204.9gz update 1007472771 updating 985745432 06070617.9gz full update 961264382 updating 960391385 06170729.9gz full update 964893367 updating 961264382 07291014.9gz full update 971556349 updating 961264382 10140327.9gz full update 985745432 updating 971556349 10141017.9gz full update 971810713 updating 971556349 10141111.9gz update 973992256 updating 971556349 10141129.9gz So following this, 03271204 should be the last update, dated Tue Dec 4 14:32:51 2001 (taken from the stamp 1007472771) I hope, this mail helps more, than it confuses :-) If You have some other patch files than me, I'm interested in - I don't have find it at any other place till now... From: Benjamin Huntsman <BHuntsman@mail2.cu-portland.edu> To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>, Date: 10.02.2013 21:53 Subject: Re: [9fans] 3e Sent by: 9fans-bounces@9fans.net Not sure why the licensing question came up. It was free back then, so I don't know why it wouldn't be now, unless Bell Labs revoked the previous license. More than anything I was trying to figure out the last release date. I've got a plan9.9gz file dated 20010327, and some odd patch files, the largest of which is 10140327.9gz dated Oct14, but I'm not sure if that's October 2000 or October 2001. Was hoping to hear if anyone had anything newer. Anyway, no worries... just fact-finding. Many thanks!! -Ben [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 3705 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
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