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From: Pietro Gagliardi <pietro10@mac.com>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Building GCC
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 12:15:41 -0500
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
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No, not really. Rio is one of the best things, and you get used to  
acme very quickly. I'm saying that we can have
.I more
software available at our fingertips.

Example: there is no art program.
Options:
	- 2nd edition Draw (/n/sources/extra/draw.tar.gz)
		I tried this, and I was thoroughly confused by it.
	- /n/sources/contrib/andrey/line.tgz
		Only does lines
	- Write your own
		Good luck
	- Cross-compile another one
		It'll take a bit less work

Thank you Mr. Trickey for APE.

As for email, I like upas/fs, but I never got it to work right with  
faces and I prefer using the folder-based system of Mac OS X Mail.

My attempt to port Qt/KDE is an experiment to see how easily we can  
port other software to Plan 9. If we can port the software untouched,  
we can add features like plumbing, etc. to Plan 9. I also don't want  
to port
.I all
of KDE. My goals right now are Konqueror's web browsing capabilities,  
and stop.

Another option is to convert, line by line, Konqueror from Qt to  
libcontrol or Limbo/Tk and add features that we like.

Avoid emacs and vi at all costs. Acme or bust! I don't want to be in  
RMS' chapel/cathedral.

I give up on GCC and other ports anyways. I'll see what I can do for  
a web browser - possibly add JavaScript/CSS to abaco or add CSS to  
charon. For the latter, I'm having problems with andrey's port of Dis.

Discussion closed, unless anyone wants to bring any ideas up.