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From: Gorka guardiola <paurea@gmail.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Peter's spam filter
Date: Wed,  7 Dec 2005 16:58:09 +0100	[thread overview]
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On 12/7/05, Postmaster@plan9.bell-labs.com
<Postmaster@plan9.bell-labs.com> wrote:
> I've been getting so much junk mail that I'm resorting to
> a draconian mechanism to avoid the spam.  In order
> to make sure that there's a real person sending mail, I'm
> asking you to explicitly enable access.  To do that,
> resend your message (or send a new message) to
> pb@plan9.bell-labs.com with the token:
>         BfQGT
> in the subject of your mail message.  After that, you
> shouldn't get any bounces from me.  Sorry if this is
> an inconvenience.
>
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> From: C H Forsyth <forsyth@vitanuova.com>
> Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 15:53:19 +0000
> To: lucio@proxima.alt.za, 9fans@cse.psu.edu
> Subject: Re: [9fans] const
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> >>list of GCC is often borne out there, one has to grant that avr-gcc is
> >>a dramatically superior product to any other offering for the target
> >>CPU.
>
> that's funny.  before i read it, i was just about to observe that our Atmel compiler
> based on Plan 9's puts tables in program flash without any hints.
> const alone wouldn't help anyway because the memory is accessed
> using special instructions so the compiler and linker need to do
> more analysis.  otherwise the compiler does reasonable well given
> that the chip is really an 8-bit micro.  i think
> the loader zl helps zc in some cases, and also monitors stack sizes.
> it was important that the FFT and CC1000
> tables go in program memory to save limited RAM,
> although that feature was added fairly late.
> we needed the atmel compiler for some work on motes.
> i looked at gcc for it a bit initially whilst waiting for ours
> but started to throw things or throw up; i can't remember which.
> --upas-rolofcrqpudavkzmcuqbdfysgg
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> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
> Subject: Re: [9fans] const
> From: Lucio De Re <lucio@proxima.alt.za>
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> > To cap this the last time I did use a 16bit cpu and tried to do this,
> > examination of the assembly proved the (name deleted) compiler was too
> > dumb to take advantage.
>
> Now, irrespective of which compiler Steve is referring to...
>
> In the delusion that I may have to migrate to embedded systems when my
> luck with system and network administration runs out, I follow the
> traffic on the avr-gcc mailing list.  Even though criticism on _this_
> list of GCC is often borne out there, one has to grant that avr-gcc is
> a dramatically superior product to any other offering for the target
> CPU.
>
> GCC is a monstrosity, but nothing else addresses all the issues that
> it resolves.  The cost is extremely high, but in my opinion it is
> worth paying.  I think GCC is closer to an organism than to a formal
> translator and that may well be its strongest suit.
>
> ++L
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  reply	other threads:[~2005-12-07 15:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-07 15:54 Postmaster
2005-12-07 15:58 ` Gorka guardiola [this message]
2005-12-07 16:19 ` [9fans] BfQGT Kenneth Long

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