I saw this as well. I hope it becomes = a reality. $25 seems like a bit of a stretch though.=C2=A0

- Jason

On May 6, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Gorka Guardiola <paurea@gmail.com> wrote:

http://www.raspber= rypi.org/

G.

--0015176f0c5845ca4b04a2a31de8-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 18:32:01 -0700 Message-ID: From: Skip Tavakkolian To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [9fans] nice terminal... Topicbox-Message-UUID: e045c1a2-ead6-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 GuruPlug display is actually very practical and usable with the stock linux and drawterm. if graphics was natively supported under Plan 9, it too would make a nice terminal. I've noticed that Android based pads and tablets are getting cheaper -- about $150 for some. It might be interesting to port Inferno or Plan9 to these. -Skip On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Gorka Guardiola wrote: > http://www.raspberrypi.org/ > > G. > > From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <4F687917.5040305@yahoo.fr> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 13:33:27 +0100 From: Nicolas Bercher User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.24) Gecko/20111120 Lightning/1.0b2 Icedove/3.1.16 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [9fans] nice terminal... Topicbox-Message-UUID: 6c285428-ead7-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 Does anyone know about the Plan 9 support status for the Raspberry Pi ? Nicolas From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4F687917.5040305@yahoo.fr> References: <4F687917.5040305@yahoo.fr> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 09:32:02 -0400 Message-ID: From: Calvin Morrison To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307cfeaa337dc004bbacb3f6 Subject: Re: [9fans] nice terminal... Topicbox-Message-UUID: 6c2c9a9c-ead7-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --20cf307cfeaa337dc004bbacb3f6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I was just thinking about this while drinking my coffee. A few perspective problems : 1. Broadcom drivers that are more locked down than Mr. Manson. 2. The boot process is insanely weird. It's boots by bootstrapping the GPU or something crazy. 3. No cd-rom drive to do a CD install. Probably easy to work around (I've only installed it this way) Calvin On Mar 20, 2012 8:35 AM, "Nicolas Bercher" wrote: > Does anyone know about the Plan 9 support status for the Raspberry Pi ? > > Nicolas > > --20cf307cfeaa337dc004bbacb3f6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I was just thinking about this while drinking my coffee.

A few perspective problems :

1. Broadcom drivers that are more locked down than Mr. Manson.

2. The boot process is insanely weird. It's boots by bootstrapping t= he GPU or something crazy.

3. No cd-rom drive to do a CD install. Probably easy to work around (I&#= 39;ve only installed it this way)

Calvin

On Mar 20, 2012 8:35 AM, "Nicolas Bercher&q= uot; <nbercher@yahoo.fr> wro= te:

Does anyone know about the Plan 9 support status for the Raspberry Pi ?

Nicolas

--20cf307cfeaa337dc004bbacb3f6-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4F687917.5040305@yahoo.fr> References: <4F687917.5040305@yahoo.fr> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 14:10:07 +0000 Message-ID: From: Charles Forsyth To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0ce00190679dc604bbad3bdd Subject: Re: [9fans] nice terminal... Topicbox-Message-UUID: 6c318b60-ead7-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --000e0ce00190679dc604bbad3bdd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 You have to have got one first. My delivery note says "May" and the blog said the initial batch had a part wrong (stopping ether from working). On 20 March 2012 12:33, Nicolas Bercher wrote: > Does anyone know about the Plan 9 support status for the Raspberry Pi ? --000e0ce00190679dc604bbad3bdd Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You have to have got one first. My delivery note says "May" and t= he blog said the initial batch had a part wrong (stopping ether from workin= g).

On 20 March 2012 12:33, Nicolas Berch= er <nbercher@yaho= o.fr> wrote:

Does anyone know about the Plan 9 support st= atus for the Raspberry Pi ?

--000e0ce00190679dc604bbad3bdd-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <5b417ba808426c90ebcf86c50c08fa0d@hamnavoe.com> To: 9fans@9fans.net From: Richard Miller <9fans@hamnavoe.com> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 14:19:43 +0000 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [9fans] nice terminal... Topicbox-Message-UUID: 6c423e9c-ead7-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 > My delivery note says "May" You're lucky. I'm on the waiting list to be allowed onto the pre-order queue. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <4F689B4C.3080306@yahoo.fr> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 15:59:24 +0100 From: Nicolas Bercher User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.24) Gecko/20111120 Lightning/1.0b2 Icedove/3.1.16 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@9fans.net References: <4F687917.5040305@yahoo.fr> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [9fans] nice terminal... Topicbox-Message-UUID: 6c46f64e-ead7-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 Le 20/03/2012 15:10, Charles Forsyth a =C3=A9crit : > You have to have got one first. My delivery note says "May" and the blo= g > said the initial batch had a part wrong (stopping ether from working). OK, I'll wait. For sure this device will stimulate some Plan 9 users! Nicolas From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: erik quanstrom Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 11:52:35 -0400 To: 9fans@9fans.net Message-ID: <6713c323b1e53392602ee385603fbaa7@brasstown.quanstro.net> In-Reply-To: <5b417ba808426c90ebcf86c50c08fa0d@hamnavoe.com> References: <5b417ba808426c90ebcf86c50c08fa0d@hamnavoe.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [9fans] nice terminal... Topicbox-Message-UUID: 6c4dab10-ead7-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Tue Mar 20 10:20:16 EDT 2012, 9fans@hamnavoe.com wrote: > > My delivery note says "May" > > You're lucky. I'm on the waiting list to be allowed onto > the pre-order queue. ooooh you're lucky. ... probablly the little jailies' pet, aren't we? what i wouldn't give to be on the waiting list to be allowed onto the pre-order queue. i don't really want one. just couldn't resist the reference. :-) - erik From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5b417ba808426c90ebcf86c50c08fa0d@hamnavoe.com> References: <5b417ba808426c90ebcf86c50c08fa0d@hamnavoe.com> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 09:03:00 -0700 Message-ID: From: David Leimbach To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8a901d2ba704bbaecf7f Subject: Re: [9fans] nice terminal... Topicbox-Message-UUID: 6c60e450-ead7-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --90e6ba6e8a901d2ba704bbaecf7f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 7:19 AM, Richard Miller <9fans@hamnavoe.com> wrote: > > My delivery note says "May" > > You're lucky. I'm on the waiting list to be allowed onto > the pre-order queue. > > > Luxury! There were four of us living in a brown paper bag in a septic tank... (sorry couldn't resist) --90e6ba6e8a901d2ba704bbaecf7f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 7:19 AM, Richard= Miller <9fans@h= amnavoe.com> wrote:

> My delivery note says "May"

You're lucky. =A0I'm on the waiting list to be allowed onto the pre-order queue.

Luxury! =A0There were four of us living in a brown paper= bag in a septic tank...

(sorry couldn't resist) --90e6ba6e8a901d2ba704bbaecf7f-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Stephen Wiley Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_A13485AD-C109-439B-93DC-5393282A2535" Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 21:34:39 +0000 In-Reply-To: To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> References: <4F687917.5040305@yahoo.fr> Message-Id: Subject: Re: [9fans] nice terminal... Topicbox-Message-UUID: 6c6a87ee-ead7-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --Apple-Mail=_A13485AD-C109-439B-93DC-5393282A2535 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I've been thinking about this for a while as well (I don't have one yet = though... so I haven't gone far beyond thinking) On Mar 20, 2012, at 1:32 PM, Calvin Morrison wrote: > 1. Broadcom drivers that are more locked down than Mr. Manson. >=20 There is a RiscOS port, perhaps that has something... > 2. The boot process is insanely weird. It's boots by bootstrapping the = GPU or something crazy. >=20 Perhaps we could port 9load to RiscOS? (like the pc version on dos) It = sounds like a simple cooperative multitasking os, but I'm no expert. I'm hoping to mess with this when mine ships (again, supposedly in may). --Apple-Mail=_A13485AD-C109-439B-93DC-5393282A2535 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1

I've been thinking about this for a while as well (I don't have one yet though... so I haven't gone far beyond thinking)

On Mar 20, 2012, at 1:32 PM, Calvin Morrison wrote:

1. Broadcom drivers that are more locked down than Mr. Manson.

There is a RiscOS port, perhaps that has something...

2. The boot process is insanely weird. It's boots by bootstrapping the GPU or something crazy.

Perhaps we could port 9load to RiscOS? (like the pc version on dos) It sounds like a simple cooperative multitasking os, but I'm no expert.

I'm hoping to mess with this when mine ships (again, supposedly in may).

--Apple-Mail=_A13485AD-C109-439B-93DC-5393282A2535-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4F687917.5040305@yahoo.fr> From: =?UTF-8?B?UGF3ZcWCIExhc2Vr?= Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 14:21:33 +0100 Message-ID: To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [9fans] nice terminal... Topicbox-Message-UUID: 73079ccc-ead7-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 13:32, Calvin Morrison wro= te: > I was just thinking about this while drinking my coffee. > > A few perspective problems : > > 1. Broadcom drivers that are more locked down than Mr. Manson. The 3D part is - simple framebuffer should work, afaik. > 2. The boot process is insanely weird. It's boots by bootstrapping the GP= U > or something crazy. Not really - it's just that the GPU contains the controller chip, and the first stage bootloader is thus written in it. It will happily load anything that has Linux-style header and resides on first, FAT-formatted dos partition on the SD card, afaik. > 3. No cd-rom drive to do a CD install. Probably easy to work around (I've > only installed it this way) See above :) > Calvin --=20 Pawe=C5=82 Lasek pawel.lasek@gmail.com pawel.lasek.08@aberdeen.ac.uk From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) From: Jeffrey Green In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 11:08:06 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <4F687917.5040305@yahoo.fr> To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] nice terminal... Topicbox-Message-UUID: 7a2bc410-ead7-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 So, a month has gone by and a slice of raspberry pi is looking more and = more tempting these days, especially since "official" delivery seems to = have happened last week. Has anyone yet chanced an introduction of one = to plan9? I would guess the initial booting would be the biggest hurdle. = What tools do we have to work with in that situation? -jeff On Mar 20, 2012, at 10:10 AM, Charles Forsyth wrote: > You have to have got one first. My delivery note says "May" and the = blog said the initial batch had a part wrong (stopping ether from = working). >=20 > On 20 March 2012 12:33, Nicolas Bercher wrote: > Does anyone know about the Plan 9 support status for the Raspberry Pi = ? >=20 From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Tristan <9p-st@imu.li> To: 9fans@9fans.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Message-Id: <2579e8.2258e2ff.jYph.mx@tumtum.plumbweb.net> In-Reply-To: References: <4F687917.5040305@yahoo.fr>

Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 11:17:05 -0400 User-Agent: mx-alpha Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [9fans] nice terminal... Topicbox-Message-UUID: 7a333790-ead7-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 > So, a month has gone by and a slice of raspberry pi is looking more and > more tempting these days, especially since "official" delivery seems to > have happened last week. Has anyone yet chanced an introduction of one > to plan9? I would guess the initial booting would be the biggest > hurdle. Not to stop anyone, but I hear getting documentation from Broadcom is a bit of a painful project all in itself. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2579e8.2258e2ff.jYph.mx@tumtum.plumbweb.net> References: <4F687917.5040305@yahoo.fr>

<2579e8.2258e2ff.jYph.mx@tumtum.plumbweb.net> Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 11:22:43 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Devon H. O'Dell" To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b339db5d54a3c04be46171d Subject: Re: [9fans] nice terminal... Topicbox-Message-UUID: 7a3a99ae-ead7-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --047d7b339db5d54a3c04be46171d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 It's not easy even if you make appliances and sell a good number of their NICs. At a company where I worked a few years ago, we had a performance problem and it took us months to get any datasheets. When that didn't help, it took us about the same amount of time to get errata. It is not fun. --dho On Apr 22, 2012 11:19 AM, "Tristan" <9p-st@imu.li> wrote: > > So, a month has gone by and a slice of raspberry pi is looking more and > > more tempting these days, especially since "official" delivery seems to > > have happened last week. Has anyone yet chanced an introduction of one > > to plan9? I would guess the initial booting would be the biggest > > hurdle. > > Not to stop anyone, but I hear getting documentation from Broadcom is a > bit of a painful project all in itself. > > > --047d7b339db5d54a3c04be46171d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

It's not easy even if you make appliances and sell a good number of = their NICs. At a company where I worked a few years ago, we had a performan= ce problem and it took us months to get any datasheets. When that didn'= t help, it took us about the same amount of time to get errata.

It is not fun.

--dho

On Apr 22, 2012 11:19 AM, "Tristan" &l= t;9p-st@imu.li> wrote:

> So, a month has gone by and a slice of raspberry pi is looking more an= d
> more tempting these days, especially since "official" delive= ry seems to
> have happened last week. Has anyone yet chanced an introduction of one=
> to plan9? I would guess the initial booting would be the biggest
> hurdle.

Not to stop anyone, but I hear getting documentation from Broadcom is a
bit of a painful project all in itself.

--047d7b339db5d54a3c04be46171d-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) From: Jeffrey Green In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 11:47:36 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <7F3B0E1A-1629-40B3-8A9B-872E85B580DB@gmail.com> References: <4F687917.5040305@yahoo.fr>

<2579e8.2258e2ff.jYph.mx@tumtum.plumbweb.net> To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] nice terminal... Topicbox-Message-UUID: 7a4b9cae-ead7-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Apr 22, 2012, at 11:22 AM, Devon H. O'Dell wrote: > It's not easy even if you make appliances and sell a good number of = their NICs. At a company where I worked a few years ago, we had a = performance problem and it took us months to get any datasheets. When = that didn't help, it took us about the same amount of time to get = errata. >=20 > It is not fun. I'm assuming the proprietary stuff that is the hurdle here is a ROM = based boot sequence (and language). I would think that the ARM processor = architecture is standard. If so about the ROM, is the general public = completely in the dark about it? -jeff > > So, a month has gone by and a slice of raspberry pi is looking more = and > > more tempting these days, especially since "official" delivery seems = to > > have happened last week. Has anyone yet chanced an introduction of = one > > to plan9? I would guess the initial booting would be the biggest > > hurdle. >=20 > Not to stop anyone, but I hear getting documentation from Broadcom is = a > bit of a painful project all in itself. >=20 >=20 From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7F3B0E1A-1629-40B3-8A9B-872E85B580DB@gmail.com> References: <4F687917.5040305@yahoo.fr>

<2579e8.2258e2ff.jYph.mx@tumtum.plumbweb.net> <7F3B0E1A-1629-40B3-8A9B-872E85B580DB@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 17:22:14 +0100 Message-ID: From: Charles Forsyth To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175cd64cac83ad04be46ec6c Subject: Re: [9fans] nice terminal... Topicbox-Message-UUID: 7a522d08-ead7-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --0015175cd64cac83ad04be46ec6c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I always hope to see things like this appearing as the McGuffin in films: "The Broadcom Errata" (``Look! I've decoded the cryptogram in the K&R Code. It seems to give the location of a Broadcom data sheet. We thought they'd all been lost or destroyed!'' ``If it also has the errata, it would be priceless! That explains why they had to kill Fletcher to shut up his open source project.") --0015175cd64cac83ad04be46ec6c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I always hope to see things like this appearing as the McGuffin in films: &= quot;The Broadcom Errata"

(``Look! I've decoded=C2=A0the crypt= ogram in the K&R Code. It seems to give=C2=A0the location of a Broadcom= data sheet.

We thought they'd all been lost or destroyed!'' ``If it also ha= s=C2=A0the errata, it would be priceless! That explains why they

= had to kill Fletcher to shut up his open source project.")

<= br>

--0015175cd64cac83ad04be46ec6c-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1257) From: Jeff Sickel In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 12:40:40 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <64960480-4EFD-47AA-9E49-0AE23777295E@corpus-callosum.com> References: <4F687917.5040305@yahoo.fr>

<2579e8.2258e2ff.jYph.mx@tumtum.plumbweb.net> <7F3B0E1A-1629-40B3-8A9B-872E85B580DB@gmail.com> To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] nice terminal... Topicbox-Message-UUID: 7a5ef506-ead7-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 Sign me up as a reviewer for your next theatrical production. A little radio, streaming audio, or even a youtube screening will suffice. On Apr 22, 2012, at 11:22 AM, Charles Forsyth wrote: > I always hope to see things like this appearing as the McGuffin in films: > "The Broadcom Errata" > (``Look! I've decoded the cryptogram in the K&R Code. It seems to give the > location of a Broadcom data sheet. > We thought they'd all been lost or destroyed!'' ``If it also has the > errata, it would be priceless! That explains why they > had to kill Fletcher to shut up his open source project.") From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <64960480-4EFD-47AA-9E49-0AE23777295E@corpus-callosum.com> References: <4F687917.5040305@yahoo.fr>

Glenda Python and the Search for the Holy Broadcom Specs

On Apr 22, 2012 1:42 PM, "Jeff Sickel"= <jas@corpus-callosum.com= > wrote:

Sign me up as a reviewer for your next theatrical production. =A0A little radio, streaming audio, or even a youtube screening will suffice.

On Apr 22, 2012, at 11:22 AM, Charles Forsyth wrote:

> I always hope to see things like this appearing as the McGuffin in fil= ms:
> "The Broadcom Errata"
> (``Look! I've decoded the cryptogram in the K&R Code. It seems= to give the
> location of a Broadcom data sheet.
> We thought they'd all been lost or destroyed!'' ``If it al= so has the
> errata, it would be priceless! That explains why they
> had to kill Fletcher to shut up his open source project.")

--e89a8ffbae6182c22604be4854f6-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 References: <4F687917.5040305@yahoo.fr>

<2579e8.2258e2ff.jYph.mx@tumtum.plumbweb.net> <7F3B0E1A-1629-40B3-8A9B-872E85B580DB@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7F3B0E1A-1629-40B3-8A9B-872E85B580DB@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <355ACE61-8887-4EB6-912E-75F7AFDC296F@bitblocks.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Bakul Shah Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 14:30:37 -0700 To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] nice terminal... Topicbox-Message-UUID: 7a7fd906-ead7-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Apr 22, 2012, at 8:47 AM, Jeffrey Green wrote: > I'm assuming the proprietary stuff that is the hurdle here is a ROM based b= oot sequence (and language). I would think that the ARM processor architectu= re is standard. If so about the ROM, is the general public completely in the= dark about it? There are is a binary containing the code that runs on the GPU; this is load= ed by the boot loader on the GPU. Then there are libGLES.so and friends that= link with your openGL ES Linux app. Not much different from what NVidia doe= s. The "kernel" is also booted by the GPU. In some ways this is simpler. To a= llow kernel choice at run time, the GPU loaded "kernel" could be 9load or gr= ub or something.=20 Linux driver to talk to the GPU is open source & CPU-GPU message types to im= plement a dumb frame buffer are documented so getting up /dev/draw shouldn't= be hard. There is a schematic for the board and a separate spec for peripherals - GPI= O, UART, PWM, etc etc. So a port should be no worse than to other ARM based SBCs. And once a port i= s done, you can have a ready to run SDHC card - no more fighting with instal= ling plan9! From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <64960480-4EFD-47AA-9E49-0AE23777295E@corpus-callosum.com> References: <4F687917.5040305@yahoo.fr>

<2579e8.2258e2ff.jYph.mx@tumtum.plumbweb.net> <7F3B0E1A-1629-40B3-8A9B-872E85B580DB@gmail.com> <64960480-4EFD-47AA-9E49-0AE23777295E@corpus-callosum.com> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 08:53:24 +0900 Message-ID: From: Joseph Stewart To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf303b417529625f04be4d3a84 Subject: Re: [9fans] nice terminal... Topicbox-Message-UUID: 7a9b5a6e-ead7-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --20cf303b417529625f04be4d3a84 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The whole Broadcom licensing thing is a major pain at my current job (although my overlords probably have equally painful legal shackles). Not being able to see data sheets is pretty lame. -joe On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Strake wrote: > On 22/04/2012, Jeff Sickel wrote: > > Sign me up as a reviewer for your next theatrical production. A little > > radio, streaming audio, or even a youtube screening will suffice. > > > > On Apr 22, 2012, at 11:22 AM, Charles Forsyth wrote: > > > >> I always hope to see things like this appearing as the McGuffin in > films: > >> "The Broadcom Errata" > >> (``Look! I've decoded the cryptogram in the K&R Code. It seems to give > >> the > >> location of a Broadcom data sheet. > >> We thought they'd all been lost or destroyed!'' ``If it also has the > >> errata, it would be priceless! That explains why they > >> had to kill Fletcher to shut up his open source project.") > > I hope that 9fans will get the casting call. > > --20cf303b417529625f04be4d3a84 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The whole Broadcom licensing thing is a major pa= in at my current job (although my overlords probably have equally painful l= egal shackles).

Not being able to see data sheets is pretty lame.

-joe

On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Strake <strake888@gmail.com= > wrote:

On 2= 2/04/2012, Jeff Sickel <jas@c= orpus-callosum.com> wrote:
> Sign me up as a reviewer for your next theatrical production. =A0A lit= tle
> radio, streaming audio, or even a youtube screening will suffice.
>
> On Apr 22, 2012, at 11:22 AM, Charles Forsyth wrote:
>
>> I always hope to see things like this appearing as the McGuffin in= films:
>> "The Broadcom Errata"
>> (``Look! I've decoded the cryptogram in the K&R Code. It s= eems to give
>> the
>> location of a Broadcom data sheet.
>> We thought they'd all been lost or destroyed!'' ``If i= t also has the
>> errata, it would be priceless! That explains why they
>> had to kill Fletcher to shut up his open source project.")

I hope that 9fans will get the casting call.

--20cf303b417529625f04be4d3a84-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4F687917.5040305@yahoo.fr>

<2579e8.2258e2ff.jYph.mx@tumtum.plumbweb.net> <7F3B0E1A-1629-40B3-8A9B-872E85B580DB@gmail.com> <64960480-4EFD-47AA-9E49-0AE23777295E@corpus-callosum.com> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 12:51:52 +1000 Message-ID: From: Bruce Ellis To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [9fans] nice terminal... Topicbox-Message-UUID: 7aacc9de-ead7-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 "John Connor uses his 26th century technology to travel back in time, insisting that Sarah's destiny will be thwarted if she does not take the errata to the desert. They blow things up - not many dead. Sarah latches onto a Cyborg open wifi and summons - a sequel." On 23 April 2012 09:53, Joseph Stewart wrote: > The whole Broadcom licensing thing is a major pain at my current job > (although my overlords probably have equally painful legal shackles). > > Not being able to see data sheets is pretty lame. > > -joe > > > On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Strake wrote: >> >> On 22/04/2012, Jeff Sickel wrote: >> > Sign me up as a reviewer for your next theatrical production. =C2=A0A = little >> > radio, streaming audio, or even a youtube screening will suffice. >> > >> > On Apr 22, 2012, at 11:22 AM, Charles Forsyth wrote: >> > >> >> I always hope to see things like this appearing as the McGuffin in >> >> films: >> >> "The Broadcom Errata" >> >> (``Look! I've decoded the cryptogram in the K&R Code. It seems to giv= e >> >> the >> >> location of a Broadcom data sheet. >> >> We thought they'd all been lost or destroyed!'' ``If it also has the >> >> errata, it would be priceless! That explains why they >> >> had to kill Fletcher to shut up his open source project.") >> >> I hope that 9fans will get the casting call. >> > --=20 Don't meddle in the mouth -- MVS (0416935147, +1-513-3BRUCEE) From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) From: Jeffrey Green In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 10:07:26 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <4F687917.5040305@yahoo.fr>

<2579e8.2258e2ff.jYph.mx@tumtum.plumbweb.net> <7F3B0E1A-1629-40B3-8A9B-872E85B580DB@gmail.com> <64960480-4EFD-47AA-9E49-0AE23777295E@corpus-callosum.com>

To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] nice terminal... Topicbox-Message-UUID: 7ad72616-ead7-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Apr 22, 2012, at 10:51 PM, Bruce Ellis wrote: > "John Connor uses his 26th century technology to travel back in time, > insisting that Sarah's destiny will be thwarted if she does not take > the errata to the desert. They blow things up - not many dead. Sarah > latches onto a Cyborg open wifi and summons - a sequel." That may be a hard sell to Disney these days.... > > On 23 April 2012 09:53, Joseph Stewart wrote: >> The whole Broadcom licensing thing is a major pain at my current job >> (although my overlords probably have equally painful legal shackles). >> >> Not being able to see data sheets is pretty lame. >> >> -joe >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Strake wrote: >>> >>> On 22/04/2012, Jeff Sickel wrote: >>>> Sign me up as a reviewer for your next theatrical production. A little >>>> radio, streaming audio, or even a youtube screening will suffice. >>>> >>>> On Apr 22, 2012, at 11:22 AM, Charles Forsyth wrote: >>>> >>>>> I always hope to see things like this appearing as the McGuffin in >>>>> films: >>>>> "The Broadcom Errata" >>>>> (``Look! I've decoded the cryptogram in the K&R Code. It seems to give >>>>> the >>>>> location of a Broadcom data sheet. >>>>> We thought they'd all been lost or destroyed!'' ``If it also has the >>>>> errata, it would be priceless! That explains why they >>>>> had to kill Fletcher to shut up his open source project.") >>> >>> I hope that 9fans will get the casting call. >>> >> > > > > -- > Don't meddle in the mouth -- MVS (0416935147, +1-513-3BRUCEE) > From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4F687917.5040305@yahoo.fr>

<2579e8.2258e2ff.jYph.mx@tumtum.plumbweb.net> <7F3B0E1A-1629-40B3-8A9B-872E85B580DB@gmail.com> <64960480-4EFD-47AA-9E49-0AE23777295E@corpus-callosum.com>

Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 10:20:03 -0400 Message-ID: From: Matthew Veety To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b15a61f92bf0804be59550b Subject: Re: [9fans] nice terminal... Topicbox-Message-UUID: 7adcb04a-ead7-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --047d7b15a61f92bf0804be59550b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Apr 23, 2012 10:07 AM, "Jeffrey Green" wrote: > > On Apr 22, 2012, at 10:51 PM, Bruce Ellis wrote: > > > "John Connor uses his 26th century technology to travel back in time, > > insisting that Sarah's destiny will be thwarted if she does not take > > the errata to the desert. They blow things up - not many dead. Sarah > > latches onto a Cyborg open wifi and summons - a sequel." > > That may be a hard sell to Disney these days.... > > > > > On 23 April 2012 09:53, Joseph Stewart wrote: > >> The whole Broadcom licensing thing is a major pain at my current job > >> (although my overlords probably have equally painful legal shackles). > >> > >> Not being able to see data sheets is pretty lame. > >> > >> -joe > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Strake wrote: > >>> > >>> On 22/04/2012, Jeff Sickel wrote: > >>>> Sign me up as a reviewer for your next theatrical production. A little > >>>> radio, streaming audio, or even a youtube screening will suffice. > >>>> > >>>> On Apr 22, 2012, at 11:22 AM, Charles Forsyth wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> I always hope to see things like this appearing as the McGuffin in > >>>>> films: > >>>>> "The Broadcom Errata" > >>>>> (``Look! I've decoded the cryptogram in the K&R Code. It seems to give > >>>>> the > >>>>> location of a Broadcom data sheet. > >>>>> We thought they'd all been lost or destroyed!'' ``If it also has the > >>>>> errata, it would be priceless! That explains why they > >>>>> had to kill Fletcher to shut up his open source project.") > >>> > >>> I hope that 9fans will get the casting call. > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Don't meddle in the mouth -- MVS (0416935147, +1-513-3BRUCEE) > > > > nah it has everything Disney loves: time travel, shitty story, and an instant sequal. Add some princesses and you're good to go. -- Veety --047d7b15a61f92bf0804be59550b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Apr 23, 2012 10:07 AM, "Jeffrey Green" <atallj@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Apr 22, 2012, at 10:51 PM, Bruce Ellis wrote:
>
> > "John Connor uses his 26th century technology to travel back= in time,
> > insisting that Sarah's destiny will be thwarted if she does n= ot take
> > the errata to the desert. They blow things up - not many dead. Sa= rah
> > latches onto a Cyborg open wifi and summons - a sequel."
>
> That may be a hard sell to Disney these days....
>
> >
> > On 23 April 2012 09:53, Joseph Stewart <joseph.stewart@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> The whole Broadcom licensing thing is a major pain at my curr= ent job
> >> (although my overlords probably have equally painful legal sh= ackles).
> >>
> >> Not being able to see data sheets is pretty lame.
> >>
> >> -joe
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Strake <strake888@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 22/04/2012, Jeff Sickel <jas@corpus-callosum.com> wrote:
> >>>> Sign me up as a reviewer for your next theatrical pro= duction. =A0A little
> >>>> radio, streaming audio, or even a youtube screening w= ill suffice.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Apr 22, 2012, at 11:22 AM, Charles Forsyth wrote:<= br> > >>>>
> >>>>> I always hope to see things like this appearing a= s the McGuffin in
> >>>>> films:
> >>>>> "The Broadcom Errata"
> >>>>> (``Look! I've decoded the cryptogram in the K= &R Code. It seems to give
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> location of a Broadcom data sheet.
> >>>>> We thought they'd all been lost or destroyed!= '' ``If it also has the
> >>>>> errata, it would be priceless! That explains why = they
> >>>>> had to kill Fletcher to shut up his open source p= roject.")
> >>>
> >>> I hope that 9fans will get the casting call.
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Don't meddle in the mouth -- MVS (0416935147, +1-513-3BRUCEE)=
> >
>
>

nah it has everything Disney loves: time travel, shitty story, and an in= stant sequal. Add some princesses and you're good to go.

--
Veety

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