From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <5d375e920705102213l15d9289ehabdbf524003e3b90@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 07:13:22 +0200 From: Uriel To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] Is IBM ThinkPad R60e notebook compatible with Plan9? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <5d375e920705102142q77c2263atc9d58ddf99de1f40@mail.gmail.com> Topicbox-Message-UUID: 64165816-ead2-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On 5/11/07, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > > How many times people need to be told to put their damned code in sources? > > Or is this such a totally crazy thing to ask of a supposedly open > > source project? > > Maybe their damned code isn't ready to ship yet? What is "ready to ship"? and if it is not "ready to ship" and is not released there is no way in hell anyone else is going to help make it "ready to ship". > I think what you're really bitching about is the lack of an "active projects" list. That would be nice, but is secondary. > The problem with advertising that you are working on something is the > endless stream of "are we there yet?" messages that result. And that problem goes away if people actually puts their damned code somewhere where people can see it, and they can 1) see it for themselves 2) try it for themselves 3) fix/finish it by themselves As things are we have random people showing up and asking "I would like to work in implementing Foo" "someone is already working on it" "who?" "we are not sure" "where is the code?" "it is not released" "what is the status?" "we don't know" - the interested potential contributor goes away frustrated and pissed off. This could be simply be avoided if one was able to point to wherever they can find the latest code and they can figure out whatever it works or whatever they can fix it or not on their own. The current madness doesn't avoid the "are we there yet?" messages, it only makes them worse. The OHCI/USB 2.0 drivers are a good example of this, I have lost count of how many people have been rumoured to have worked on that, and I don't think anybody has a clue of really what the status is and what still needs to be done. uriel