From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <5d375e920709022004m692b190aob690e1ef9e8a1611@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 05:04:04 +0200 From: Uriel To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] sources access from brazil In-Reply-To: <56a297000709021934x361240c7ra989ea641332b4b2@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <82c890d00709020447q221b9247q759199143be28494@mail.gmail.com> <7b5be22f644748800d79301f0a7b9c0d@plan9.bell-labs.com> <5d375e920709021926u6ca3d1f1hf3f459e1c096b299@mail.gmail.com> <56a297000709021934x361240c7ra989ea641332b4b2@mail.gmail.com> Topicbox-Message-UUID: b4d925c6-ead2-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 I'm sorry, but that makes no sense at almost every level: 1) why would whois info matter to determine where a client is? There are databases of ip country locations which would make much more sense, depending on notoriously unreliable whois servers is silly both from a security point of view and from a reliability point of view. 2) are you saying that http://groups.google.com/group/plan9changes, kernel.org or lkml are illegal? (or prety much any site that hosts linux ISOs) 3) this is hardly surprising given how totally unenforceable any such laws might be, anyone can import /net from tip9ug, or use a random http proxy and make the whole thing pointless (other than keeping out people like iru). I might be stupid, but this still makes no sense to me, and I would like to know why nobody else seems to have any such problems. Best wishes uriel P.S.: Note the following notice in kernel.org: Due to U.S. Exports Regulations, all cryptographic software on this site is subject to the following legal notice: This site includes publicly available encryption source code which, together with object code resulting from the compiling of publicly available source code, may be exported from the United States under License Exception "TSU" pursuant to 15 C.F.R. Section 740.13(e). This legal notice applies to cryptographic software only. Please see the Bureau of Industry and Security for more information about current U.S. regulations. On 9/3/07, Noah Evans wrote: > Uriel, > > As long as Plan 9 is hosted in the US and contains certain software > it's illegal to export to certain countries(IIRC North Korea, Iran > etc...). To stay on the right side of American law Geoff and gang have > to do it that way. > > Noah > > On 9/3/07, Uriel wrote: > > This is probably a silly question, but why should anyone be denied > > access on the basis of whatever a whois server who knows where might > > or might not do? > > > > Best wishes and thanks for fixing the issues iru was having. > > > > uriel > > > > On 9/2/07, geoff@plan9.bell-labs.com wrote: > > > If you think you're being denied access incorrectly, please include > > > your IP address(es) in your mail to us. The mostly likely cause is > > > that we can't reach a whois server. > > > > > > > > >