From: Uriel <uriel99@gmail.com>
To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: [9fans] awk, not utf aware...
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:01:33 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5d375e920802271201n263476cbnf8929a92c1ba3177@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <39d22acfc53470335fdb74156c738feb@plan9.bell-labs.com>
None of those issues are specific to AWK, they apply just as well to
sed(1) or any program dealing with regexps. I think the plan9 tools
demonstrate that it is not so hard to find a 'good enough' solution;
and the lunix locale debacle demonstrate that if you want to get it
'right' you will end up with a nightmare.
The problem with awk is that it is not a native plan9 app, and it
simian nature shows in too many places. For example system() and | are
badly broken:
% echo |awk '{print |"echo $KSH_VERSION"}'
@(#)PD KSH v5.2.14 99/07/13.2
Boyd made a native port of awk that fixed most (all?) of this issues,
it can be found somewhere in his contrib dir but I don't think is
production-ready.
uriel
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Sape Mullender
<sape@plan9.bell-labs.com> wrote:
> > There is split and other functions,
> > for example:
> >
> > toupper("aí")
> > gives
> > Aí
> >
> > My guess is that there are many more little (or not) corners where it
> > doesn't work.
>
> Yes, and then there is locale: does [a-z] include ij when you run it
> in Holland (it should)? Does it include á, è, ô in France (it should)?
> Does it include ø, å in Norway (it should not)? And what happens when
> you evaluate "è" < "o" (it depends)?
>
> Fixing awk is much harder than anyone things. I had a chat about it with
> Brian Kernighan and he says he's been thinking about fixing awk for a
> long time, but that it really is a hard problem.
>
> Sape
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-02-27 20:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-02-26 12:18 Gorka Guardiola
2008-02-26 13:16 ` Martin Neubauer
2008-02-26 14:54 ` Gorka Guardiola
2008-02-26 20:24 ` erik quanstrom
2008-02-26 21:08 ` geoff
2008-02-26 21:21 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-02-26 21:24 ` erik quanstrom
2008-02-26 21:32 ` Steven Vormwald
2008-02-26 21:40 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-02-26 21:42 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-02-26 23:59 ` Steven Vormwald
2008-02-27 2:38 ` Joel C. Salomon
2008-02-29 17:00 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2008-02-26 21:34 ` erik quanstrom
2008-02-27 7:36 ` Gorka Guardiola
2008-02-27 15:54 ` Sape Mullender
2008-02-27 20:01 ` Uriel [this message]
2008-02-28 19:06 ` [9fans] localization, unicode, regexps (was: awk, not utf aware...) Tristan Plumb
2008-02-28 15:10 ` [9fans] awk, not utf aware erik quanstrom
2008-03-03 23:48 ` Jack Johnson
2008-03-04 0:13 ` erik quanstrom
2008-02-27 9:57 erik quanstrom
2008-02-28 18:54 Aharon Robbins
2008-02-28 21:48 ` Uriel
2008-02-28 22:08 ` erik quanstrom
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