From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <5d375e920812281501j355968fu67a28aac31e791ec@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 00:01:39 +0100 From: Uriel To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@9fans.net> In-Reply-To: <7F30268A-F8B7-41A4-9684-8DE88C1DCB93@corpus-callosum.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <97D0669D-148B-499B-8620-8961E16880FA@corpus-callosum.com> <5d375e920812281024j79eaeea5g8ff06762d5d2ba6a@mail.gmail.com> <7F30268A-F8B7-41A4-9684-8DE88C1DCB93@corpus-callosum.com> Subject: Re: [9fans] rio in cpu/auth server in vmware fusion 2.0 Topicbox-Message-UUID: 7394a5fc-ead4-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 8:54 PM, Jeff Sickel wrote: > Not with VMware Fusion it isn't. Mostly because you get a bunch of garbage > being drawn/hidden when trying to get Plan 9's video drivers working. So > it's mostly useless. In that case I don't think you can blame VMware for lack of documentation, and instead you should blame Apple for building such a lousy and pathetically documented OS. (Actually I have watched an interesting presentation by the folks that built Fusion on the wonders of how clunky and outright schizoid OS X internals are). > I've got a great idea Uriel: why don't you take that open sourced XORG video > driver and get it working for Plan 9. Though if I were a betting man, I'd > say you'll find that that free code from VMware won't quite do what is > needed on their Fusion product--it's a different beast from their versions > for Linux and Windows. I have a better idea: get a host OS that doesn't suck so much, Windows for example. >> As for drawterm, can we kill it already? 9vx and Inferno are much >> better alternatives.. > > I disagree. With drawterm I get copy/paste via snarf between my host OS and > my Plan 9 instance running in the vm . And as a bonus, it helps distribute > everything quite well: great access through /mnt/term etc. You get both features in 9vx and Inferno. > 9vx on OSX is very slow with anything that hits the native filesystem--which > ends up being almost everything I use it for: acme, sam, man, 8c, ... Got to love OSX... > Inferno still has a few issues that still make it a little less than optimal > for use when connecting to my Plan 9 cpu servers. Maybe once a cleaned up > wm is in place so that I can do what drawterm does well: resizable window > and good toggle between full screen. I certainly agree Inferno has many issues, but maybe if more people used it rather than waste resources on a dead end like drawterm things would improve. uriel