From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <599f06db0904171226r4d0e9639nde723a24d4600245@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 17:02:58 +0200 Message-ID: <5d375e920904200802rf9508fegf1edd17292b7413@mail.gmail.com> From: Uriel To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [9fans] Help for home user discovering Plan 9 Topicbox-Message-UUID: ea879066-ead4-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 We can't tell you who uses Plan 9, because it is a secret and they don't want anyone to learn about their secret competitive advantage. /sarcasm (But still sadly true.) uriel On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Balwinder S Dheeman wrote: > On 04/18/2009 01:02 AM, Gorka Guardiola wrote: >> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Balwinder S Dheeman wrote: >>> Please set aside rare cases and let us know who except for the students= , >>> teachers and, or researchers uses Plan9 and, or Inferno in the offices, >>> homes and, or cafes and for what? >>> >>> The Plan9 project started in 1980, took around 9 years to be solid >>> enough to be usable and that too by the internal and, or lab people >>> [http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sys/doc/9.html] only. Whereas, the FreeBSD >>> and, or Linux (though not an OS or Unix variant in a sense) came into >>> existence later in 1993 and 1991 respectively are more popular among an= y >>> other variants of Unix. >> >> That is the difference between coming up with a design an rethinking the >> system and just copying one and porting software already written. Linux >> started mostly using all the gnu stuff and copied all the design from al= ready >> existing Unix things. That of course takes less than rethinking >> everything carefully >> from scratch. For example UTF. Among other things. >> >> That said what is the points of this discussions?. Use whatever you want >> and have fun. I use 4 or 5 operating systems >> for different things. One of them is Plan 9. Not only for teaching but >> as infrastructure >> For example this is the CMS for our courses: >> http://lsub.org/magic/group?o=3Di&g=3Dc >> And we ran several labs which runs diskless for teaching and so. >> This infrastructure serves hundreds of students. I can even have 100 com= puters >> running diskless with students with daily automatic incremental backups = (venti) >> using the CMS (yes, with abaco) and compiling and running programs >> at the same time against one file server. Try that with *any* other >> operating system >> (and our hardware infrastructure). >> >> Then again, that may not be "solid enough" for you. I happen to work >> at a University, sorry. >> >> I also run Mac OS and use it for web browsing. Windows for several >> devices (like a USB sniffer) which I don't have drivers nor I do I >> feel like writing. >> Linux in my illiad ebook. >> And inferno/octopus for integrating all this stuff into a usable environ= ment. >> And some time even others. >> >> If Plan 9 is not useful for you nor you get how it can be, good, don't u= se it. >> >> For me it is. > > Again, but that's only a rare case, sorry. > > I understand your sentiments well, because I also worked as a lecturer > for about 4 years and I managed to setup such an environment based on > Linux systems there; that's not a production deployment for any > commercial and, or industrial use cases. > > Let me repeat that the question is/was, "Who uses Plan9 in the Offices, > homes and, or cafes for commercial and, or industrial application". > > I'm not against using, spreading, technology and, or philosophy behind > Plan9, but am curious to know some solid example cases; no doubt yours > is one such case though again only educational and, or research related. > > Please don't tell/dictate me what I should and, or should't I use. > > -- > Balwinder S "bdheeman" Dheeman =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Registered Linu= x User: #229709 > Anu'z Linux@HOME (Unix Shoppe) =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Machines: #1685= 73, 170593, 259192 > Chandigarh, UT, 160062, India =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Plan9, T2, Arch= /Debian/FreeBSD/XP > Home: http://cto.homelinux.net/~bsd/ =C2=A0Visit: http://counter.li.org/ > >