>There's a good chance your /tmp issue is not permissions, >but a lack of /tmp being mounted. If your hostowner >doesn't have a lib/profile or its lib/profile doesn't >mount /tmp, then you won't be able to write anything >to it. That was definitely it. I had been logging into the hostowner profile but hadn't run newuser. I ran it, and then the pull worked. I did have to use the -s sys/src flag, but anyway, all up to date. So looks like having a profile for hostowner is required. Good to know. When rebuilding, I did have to change the permissions on /mail/lib/gone.* in order for 'mk install' to complete, though I suppose I could have added bootes to the upas group... but anyway, thanks all for the help!! -Ben