From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <63626928d1b9d7d7a5001593df460222@coraid.com> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: [9fans] system crash during compile From: Brantley Coile Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 09:44:42 -0400 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Topicbox-Message-UUID: 7e313564-ead1-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 > Swap has never worked. It mostly works, but there have > always been hard-to-reproduce and then even harder-to-debug > little issues, and I just don't trust it at all. With memory so > cheap, there is little motivation to fix it. That explains our mail processing problems that we had a few years ago when the incoming load was so high that it exceeded local store and we turned on swap, but things were still funky. (wound up limiting the number of connections allowed to port 25 at a given time.) Might I suggest we remove swap from the system, at least remove it enough so people don't fall prey to it? I would argue backing store is a thing of the past and that Sandy Fraser's objections to the Plan 9 team early on, as I understand his objections to be, were correct. Let's just use paging to manage the store in the box and to perhaps demand load text. We're a long way from tiny, expensive local stores and slow drums. Let's just take it out.