From: erik quanstrom <quanstro@quanstro.net>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] Investigating the Plan 9 Operating System - OSNews.com
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 21:29:04 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6585c39236c2e3f2ad32986b228e84f1@quanstro.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44C9049D.2060603@village.com>
while you are right, the net did loose some things when everybody hopped on.
there wasn't any spam. internet services were unblocked. &c.
on the other hand, network bandwidth was poor and there was very little
content available. neither google nor wikipedia would exist without the
unwashed masses.
i don't think the evolution of the net (or computers for that matter) is a story
of the good old days and constant regression or the converse. i think it's a story
of (slightly? how pessamistic are you?) more advances than regressions.
- erik
On Thu Jul 27 13:24:54 CDT 2006, wes@village.com wrote:
> Ronald G Minnich wrote:
> >
> > see, the arpanet, ca. 1976, where we all trusted each other. Once the
> > masses came in, it was all over.
> 1. CIX and others provided alternate backbones to NSF, enabling
> commercial traffic
> 2. Delphi (which I founded) saw the resulting opportunity and started
> bringing in the masses
> 3. Delphi was purchased by Rupert Murdoch, who thought the Net was a
> broadcast medium and thus blew it big time
> 4. AOL seized on the resulting vacuum and brought in the masses of masses.
>
> So money transformed the Net from an ivy league faculty club into Real
> Life. Could you envision any other outcome?
>
> Money is one of those things that removes civilization from
> civilization. And money always finds a way in. And yes, I did my part.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-07-28 2:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-07-19 21:47 csant
2006-07-19 22:25 ` David Leimbach
2006-07-19 22:28 ` David Leimbach
2006-07-19 22:38 ` csant
2006-07-19 23:50 ` erik quanstrom
2006-07-20 6:39 ` csant
2006-07-20 14:50 ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-07-20 15:08 ` Wes Kussmaul
2006-07-20 16:47 ` David Leimbach
2006-07-20 18:42 ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-07-20 0:06 ` Federico G. Benavento
2006-07-20 1:00 ` David Leimbach
2006-07-20 6:48 ` Christoph Lohmann
2006-07-20 12:25 ` Re: Re: [9fans] Investigating the Plan 9 Operating System - Brantley Coile
2006-07-20 13:32 ` Benn Newman
2006-07-20 16:30 ` Re: Re: [9fans] Investigating the Plan 9 Operating System - OSNews.com Lyndon Nerenberg
2006-07-20 0:06 ` Geoffrey Avila
2006-07-19 22:52 ` LiteStar numnums
2006-07-20 14:51 ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-07-23 14:14 ` LiteStar numnums
2006-07-23 14:13 ` erik quanstrom
2006-07-23 15:02 ` matt
2006-07-23 20:07 ` csant
2006-07-23 21:24 ` Federico G. Benavento
2006-07-23 21:29 ` csant
2006-07-23 22:22 ` Dan Cross
2006-07-24 6:03 ` Federico Benavento
2006-07-24 22:09 ` Plan 9
2006-07-24 22:18 ` andrey mirtchovski
2006-07-24 22:25 ` Federico G. Benavento
2006-07-24 22:39 ` jmk
2006-07-24 22:44 ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-07-25 14:44 ` Dave Lukes
2006-07-25 16:07 ` elbing
2006-07-25 16:41 ` ems
2006-07-25 16:56 ` Ignacio Torres Masdeu
2006-07-25 17:27 ` ems
2006-07-25 17:33 ` Michael Baldwin
2006-07-26 18:20 ` Dan Cross
2006-07-25 17:52 ` Iruatã Souza (muzgo)
2006-07-25 19:15 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2006-07-25 21:42 ` Sascha Retzki
2006-07-25 18:55 ` ems
2006-07-27 15:04 ` Wes Kussmaul
2006-07-27 15:40 ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-07-27 18:23 ` Wes Kussmaul
2006-07-27 20:20 ` Nicolás Victorero Mier
2006-07-28 2:29 ` erik quanstrom [this message]
2006-07-28 9:48 ` Harri Haataja
2006-07-28 10:59 ` erik quanstrom
2006-07-28 14:01 ` David Leimbach
2006-07-28 13:54 ` erik quanstrom
2006-07-28 15:35 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2006-07-28 14:05 ` Wes Kussmaul
2006-07-23 20:49 cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+9fans-archive=plan9.bell-labs.com, Andrew Hudson
2006-07-23 21:01 ` andrey mirtchovski
2006-07-23 21:20 ` csant
2006-07-25 19:47 ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2006-07-25 22:01 ` John Floren
2006-07-25 23:06 ` csant
2006-07-23 22:09 ` Federico G. Benavento
2006-07-23 23:40 ` David Leimbach
2006-07-24 5:41 ` Christoph Lohmann
2006-07-24 8:19 ` Bruce Ellis
2006-07-24 15:04 ` John Floren
2006-07-23 21:19 Andrew Hudson
2006-07-23 21:45 ` andrey mirtchovski
2006-07-23 23:44 ` David Leimbach
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