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From: erik quanstrom <quanstro@quanstro.net>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] Investigating the Plan 9 Operating System - OSNews.com
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 21:29:04 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6585c39236c2e3f2ad32986b228e84f1@quanstro.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44C9049D.2060603@village.com>

while you are right, the net did loose some things when everybody hopped on.
there wasn't any spam.  internet services were unblocked.  &c.

on the other hand, network bandwidth was poor and there was very little
content available.  neither google nor wikipedia would exist without the
unwashed masses.

i don't think the evolution of the net (or computers for that matter) is a story
of the good old days and constant regression or the converse.  i think it's a story
of (slightly?  how pessamistic are you?) more advances than regressions.

- erik

On Thu Jul 27 13:24:54 CDT 2006, wes@village.com wrote:
> Ronald G Minnich wrote:
> >
> > see, the arpanet, ca. 1976, where we all trusted each other. Once the
> > masses came in, it was all over.
> 1. CIX and others provided alternate backbones to NSF, enabling
> commercial traffic
> 2. Delphi (which I founded) saw the resulting opportunity and started
> bringing in the masses
> 3. Delphi was purchased by Rupert Murdoch, who thought the Net was a
> broadcast medium and thus blew it big time
> 4. AOL seized on the resulting vacuum and brought in the masses of masses.
>
> So money transformed the Net from an ivy league faculty club into Real
> Life. Could you envision any other outcome?
>
> Money is one of those things that removes civilization from
> civilization. And money always finds a way in. And yes, I did my part.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-07-28  2:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-07-19 21:47 csant
2006-07-19 22:25 ` David Leimbach
2006-07-19 22:28   ` David Leimbach
2006-07-19 22:38     ` csant
2006-07-19 23:50       ` erik quanstrom
2006-07-20  6:39         ` csant
2006-07-20 14:50         ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-07-20 15:08           ` Wes Kussmaul
2006-07-20 16:47           ` David Leimbach
2006-07-20 18:42             ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-07-20  0:06     ` Federico G. Benavento
2006-07-20  1:00       ` David Leimbach
2006-07-20  6:48         ` Christoph Lohmann
2006-07-20 12:25         ` Re: Re: [9fans] Investigating the Plan 9 Operating System - Brantley Coile
2006-07-20 13:32           ` Benn Newman
2006-07-20 16:30         ` Re: Re: [9fans] Investigating the Plan 9 Operating System - OSNews.com Lyndon Nerenberg
2006-07-20  0:06   ` Geoffrey Avila
2006-07-19 22:52 ` LiteStar numnums
2006-07-20 14:51   ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-07-23 14:14 ` LiteStar numnums
2006-07-23 14:13   ` erik quanstrom
2006-07-23 15:02     ` matt
2006-07-23 20:07   ` csant
2006-07-23 21:24     ` Federico G. Benavento
2006-07-23 21:29       ` csant
2006-07-23 22:22       ` Dan Cross
2006-07-24  6:03         ` Federico Benavento
2006-07-24 22:09       ` Plan 9
2006-07-24 22:18         ` andrey mirtchovski
2006-07-24 22:25         ` Federico G. Benavento
2006-07-24 22:39           ` jmk
2006-07-24 22:44             ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-07-25 14:44               ` Dave Lukes
2006-07-25 16:07                 ` elbing
2006-07-25 16:41                 ` ems
2006-07-25 16:56                   ` Ignacio Torres Masdeu
2006-07-25 17:27                     ` ems
2006-07-25 17:33                       ` Michael Baldwin
2006-07-26 18:20                         ` Dan Cross
2006-07-25 17:52                       ` Iruatã Souza (muzgo)
2006-07-25 19:15                         ` Skip Tavakkolian
2006-07-25 21:42                       ` Sascha Retzki
2006-07-25 18:55                         ` ems
2006-07-27 15:04                         ` Wes Kussmaul
2006-07-27 15:40                           ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-07-27 18:23                             ` Wes Kussmaul
2006-07-27 20:20                               ` Nicolás Victorero Mier
2006-07-28  2:29                               ` erik quanstrom [this message]
2006-07-28  9:48                                 ` Harri Haataja
2006-07-28 10:59                                   ` erik quanstrom
2006-07-28 14:01                                     ` David Leimbach
2006-07-28 13:54                                       ` erik quanstrom
2006-07-28 15:35                                       ` Skip Tavakkolian
2006-07-28 14:05                                 ` Wes Kussmaul
2006-07-23 20:49 cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+9fans-archive=plan9.bell-labs.com, Andrew Hudson
2006-07-23 21:01 ` andrey mirtchovski
2006-07-23 21:20 ` csant
2006-07-25 19:47   ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2006-07-25 22:01     ` John Floren
2006-07-25 23:06     ` csant
2006-07-23 22:09 ` Federico G. Benavento
2006-07-23 23:40 ` David Leimbach
2006-07-24  5:41   ` Christoph Lohmann
2006-07-24  8:19     ` Bruce Ellis
2006-07-24 15:04       ` John Floren
2006-07-23 21:19 Andrew Hudson
2006-07-23 21:45 ` andrey mirtchovski
2006-07-23 23:44 ` David Leimbach

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