From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 09:42:09 +0100 From: Eris Discordia To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Message-ID: <6653239E78712E5C0992CFE3@[172.16.10.224]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: [9fans] sad commentary Topicbox-Message-UUID: d1bc4a46-ead3-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 You've misread me. I'm far from understanding which facilities Plan 9 provides for "ron minnich," the CS/CE person. I should be able of finding facilities it provides for "me," the lowlife. Or I'd dump it as an option for Getting My Job Done (tm), as did many before me. No public recognition of Plan 9 lies in that direction. In passing, I may actually be able to figure out how to cope with your "challenge." That wouldn't change Plan 9's status as a "niche" OS, however. I happen to know that Plan 9 presents a network transparent environment, so trying out a C compiler at plan9.bell-labs.com shouldn't be any harder than trying it out at the local machine which is incidentally much harder to grasp "conceptually" than the same task performed on FreeBSD because network transparency involves additional layers of abstraction whether you admit it or not. A stand-alone Plan 9 system amounts in conceptual complexity "for the user" to at least three interconnected machines. Very little has been done to cover that. --On Monday, June 30, 2008 5:22 PM -0700 ron minnich wrote: > On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Eris Discordia > wrote: >> Not a very kind comment. Though, it is possible that it's true. >> >> What was there for me to understand about Plan 9 that I did not? Barring >> a "mystical" bond with its exquisite kernel, of course. >> > > Let's pretend I want to try out the C compilers at > plan9.bell-labs.com. i want to see what they do, maybe differently > than my local ones do. > > How do you do that? > > ron >