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Date: Fri,  9 Jun 2006 10:37:00 -0500
From: quanstro@quanstro.net
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] gcc on plan9
In-Reply-To: <200606090810.35322.corey_s@qwest.net>
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On Fri Jun  9 10:11:50 CDT 2006, corey_s@qwest.net wrote:
> On Friday 09 June 2006 06:15, quanstro@quanstro.net wrote:
> > On Fri Jun  9 07:41:19 CDT 2006, corey_s@qwest.net wrote:
> > > Again, my mistake - I accidently crossed-wires by mentioning c99; when the
> > > point I was trying make was to draw the parralel/similarity between C and libc, 
> > > and Obj-C and GNUstep ( or FoundationKit, or whatever ).
> > 
> > regardless, my question remains the same.  can you name a specific c99 libc
> > bit that is missing and explain why it could make plan 9 better?
> > 
> 
> I am certainly not qualified to raise any contention with what portions of the C99
> standard  have been purposefully left out of Plan 9's libc.
> 
> Plan 9 has been around for a long time now, if something obvious or necessary
> were missing from its libc, I can only imagine that it would have already been 
> remedied.

necessity is subjective so i wouldn't make that assumption.

> Am I correct in interpreting your question as an assertion that, if Plan 9's libc is
> functionaly complete, then it logically follows that an Objective-C runtime library
> such as GNUstep would not bring anything useful to the table?

no, not at all.  i think you address what i'm trying to say below:

> 
> I won't be able to convince, with certainty, even _myself_ that obj-c would be
> anything more than at best redundant on Plan 9 until I have actually evaluated 
> obj-c _on_ Plan 9. That's the whole point of this potentialy inane little experiment;
> I'm dabbling.

bingo.

> > what specific  objective c properties would be beneficial?
> >
> 
> Richer exception handling, richer string handling, garbage collection, categories,
> protocols, introspection, dynamic dispatch, dynamic typing, heck, dynamic 
> everything, unit testing, steptalk. 

take a look at inferno/limbo.

- erik