From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <69cfe5c8d46b0e576ed287a4ddf7cf02@vitanuova.com> From: C H Forsyth To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Laptop and VM software In-Reply-To: <3F1775B1.3090904@ajft.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-cnoztzesstehqhguagonwvqljb" Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 12:52:07 +0100 Topicbox-Message-UUID: fad6b252-eacb-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-cnoztzesstehqhguagonwvqljb Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit what went wrong? --upas-cnoztzesstehqhguagonwvqljb Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu> Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for forsyth@vitanuova.com id 19dMmo-1-3uL-1r; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 04:24:02 -0000 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by punt-3.mail.demon.net id aa0110895; 18 Jul 2003 4:22 GMT Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C089919C08; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 00:22:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2341519A7A; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 00:22:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 227B919AAA; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 00:21:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ALPHA1.ITS.MONASH.EDU.AU (alpha1.its.monash.edu.au [130.194.1.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 25D1E19A7A for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 00:21:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from blammo.its.monash.edu.au ([130.194.1.74]) by vaxc.its.monash.edu.au (PMDF V6.1 #39306) with ESMTP id <01KYEO2OAFSA9FRZDP@vaxc.its.monash.edu.au> for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 14:21:11 +1000 Received: from blammo.its.monash.edu.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CB9212C00F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 14:21:11 +1000 (EST) Received: from ajft.org (nbk-9978.its.monash.edu.au [130.194.3.170]) (user ajft) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by blammo.its.monash.edu.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0938812C00E for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 14:21:11 +1000 (EST) From: Adrian Tritschler Subject: Re: [9fans] Laptop and VM software In-reply-to: <53d09c64c314eb2c75ac4aee7d17b778@plan9.bell-labs.com> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-id: <3F1775B1.3090904@ajft.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en,zh,zh-CN,zh-TW User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5b) Gecko/20030716 References: <53d09c64c314eb2c75ac4aee7d17b778@plan9.bell-labs.com> Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 14:21:05 +1000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) jmk@plan9.bell-labs.com wrote: >On Thu Jul 17 14:16:28 EDT 2003, vdharani@infernopark.com wrote: > > >>Hi, >> >>I am planning to buy a laptop. I want to install Win, Linux and Plan 9. >> >>Can you please suggest what VM software I should go for? VMware or Virtual >>PC? >> >>Also, can you suggest what model I should go for? IBM T23? Or better Txx >>model? Or someother brand/model? >> >>I kind-of figured from the mailing list and Wiki pages that T23 and VMware >>4.0 are the ones I should go for but I just want to make sure. >> >>Any help appreciated. >> >>Thanks >>dharani >> >> > >Even the T23 is not uniform. We have ones with the internal Intel 82557 ethernet >controller, the T23 is also available with an internal 3Com controller and, if I >remember correctly, there was a problem with that. > That'd be my[1] IBM T21. :-( Plan9's 3com driver doesn't work with the "3Com 10/100 Mini PCI Ethernet Adapter" that was supplied with it. It's not really a case of "internal vs external" controller, both are internal mini-PCI cards, one works, one doesn't. If anyone can give me any hints on making it work, or how to debug a network card driver, I'm all ears... >VMware is the only choice. Virtual PC doesn't implement the PC it says it does and plan 9 finds that out. > Adrian [1] my employer's T21, provided for "work and work-related purposes" --upas-cnoztzesstehqhguagonwvqljb--